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Posted: 10/18/2011 5:51:56 PM EDT
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what degree of accuracy are you getting out of your rifle?
I was shooing about 75yards today and only able to keep them in about a 2in spread, to me this is not very good given the trajectory of .22 rounds and the small size of the targets. Im using a factory light barrel cut and threaded at 16in by ADCO, CCI ammo, so is it my crappy shooting or the best I can expect from the rifle? |
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Are you shooting from a rest or bipod? Which CCI ammo are you using? What were the conditions like? Have you tried any other types of ammo?
Rimfires can be ammo specific. You may have one 10/22 that likes CCI mini-mag HP and the next one will love Federal # 510. You need to try various types of ammo to find the right one, which you may have done. Also I have found 10/22s to vary between inherent accuracy by what seems like random chance. Which model of 10/22 do you have? They made a heavy barrel target model as well and that one should shoot better than the regular barreled version. As for what some of us have gotten accuracy wise from our 10/22s one of my factory barreled 10/22s averaged under .250 inch at 25 yards and again under 1/2" at 50 yards with SK standard + (same as Wolf). I haven't shot it at 75 yards but I ended up just over MOA at 100 yards. These were the best 3 out of 4 groups if I remember except the 25 yard target which was all 4 targets of 4 shot on one page. It is uncommon however, for a factory barrel to shoot that good but there are some that do. My others didn't and all but one of them were rebarreled. I cannot recall how they shot as they were changed over a long time ago. Edit: I reread your post and I see you are using a factory light barrel. Typically to get really good accuracy you need to have them cut back and rechambered. CTC does that but if your barrel is 16" now there isn't enough barrel length left to allow it to be done. |
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some people get better results from the factory barrel by setting it back to reduce the chamber dimensions. the factory chamber is very loose. some of the reworked barrels come close to the accuracy of some of the match barrels.
most stock rifles have crappy triggers. a litle work on the trigger can help your groups. some have also said that some bolt mods will improve accuracy. and simply eliminating the barrel band can also help accuracy. then there's a matter of finding ammo that your barrel likes. reworked factory barrels, and match barrels tend to be less finicky about that they shoot well. don't know if you were shooting offhand, prone, from a bipod or bench... so no clue on what to suggest. heavier guns are easier to hold steady as long as you can hold them up. lighter guns tend to wander all around. i've got a new scope on a new build, and just remounted the scope on another build with a new rail... haven't had a chance to zero either yet, so i can't really say what they do. still looking for a new scope for one, so i may go thru this again. |
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With any rimfire try a bunch of different ammo types and brands.
If your gun will run on them the standard velocity ammo will usually get better accuracy (CCI std,Wolf MT ) Generally the 10/22 triggers suck and are a huge limiting factor . Several companys make parts /replacement parts |
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Off a harris bipod, using a hogue stock so no barrel band.
The barrel is 16.5, ill look into it. Im using a power custom titanum 2lb trigger. The barrel has to be threaded. CCI subsonic HP for the same reason.
I drilled a hole in the back of the reciever for cleaning rods, so no crown damage. |
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I drilled a hole in the back of the reciever for cleaning rods, so no crown damage. the problem with drilling the back of the receiver is that you can't take advantage of that trick without removing the rifle from the stock and the bolt from the receiver. so do you have an Allen head bolt to secure the action into the stock and an inch pounds torque wrench to put it back into the stock consistently? (different torques will produce different results) if not, just skip it, lock the bolt back and run a boresnake thru it. Hogue stocks also have a reputation for being somewhat flexy. might want to play with using a piece of innertube under the barrel back by the action bolt to float the barrel. |
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Off a harris bipod, using a hogue stock so no barrel band. The barrel is 16.5, ill look into it. Im using a power custom titanum 2lb trigger. The barrel has to be threaded. CCI subsonic HP for the same reason.
I drilled a hole in the back of the reciever for cleaning rods, so no crown damage. IDK about the barrel you are running but the fact that subsonic HP's will fit in the chamber tells me it still has the loose factory sporter chamber. That's great for reliability but not made for accuracy. I'd say for 75yds. 2" is about normal. An aftermarket match grade barrel will make a world of difference for you. |
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10/22's are a special breed. Actually, the people who buy them are. We pick up a $200 rifle, that is for its price well done, but then we want it to shoot like an Olympic Match rifle that costs thousands of dollars. My factory stock (other than hammer smoothing) 10/22 has been with me for 35 years. It has performed flawlessly with thousands of rounds having made a rapid escape down that barrel. Many a squirrel, rabbit, musk rat, crow, ground hog, etc. have been sent to the after-world by that rifle....all with a stock barrel. But, that is what the 10/22 was made to do and it does it with great dependability and consistency.
How well does it group? Good question. The answer is: good enough to take out every squirrel I ever shot at with it (well...most at least). True practical hunting range for a .22 is considered by many to be 50 yards, 75 yards tops. Realistically in a forest where I grew up it was more like 25 to 50 yards. So, if it groups well enough to hit a rabbit or squirrel at those ranges it was a good gun. Of course, you really need to try different ammo to zero in what fits your rifle best. If you want a target gun to make little holes in paper....buy one of those fancy German Anschutz things or get out the credit card and start smoking it up. Accuracy is like speed....you can buy all of it you can afford. Decide what you really want that rifle to do and then decide what that level of performance is worth to you. I have five of those rascals, some stock, one that has a custom barrel, after market FCG, etc and it will drill one hole groups at 50 yards.....but there is a price for doing that. |
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I have a 10/22 that I changed the barrel on to one of these. Mostly because I like the looks of a longer barrel.
http://shootersdiscount.com/cart/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=137 Then installed a Volquartsen hammer & spring kit. Which is much easier than you would think. Look the video up on you tube. It will now shoot 1.5" to 2.0" (measured not guessed) at 100yds using Remington 525's bulk. I haven't tried Wolf or any othe match ammo yet. |
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CCI subsonic HP for the same reason.