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Upon further research, I'm going to go with my initial gut impulse which is just to get the comp. Not a fan of the extra bulk and LOP on the pro, and this poster below seems to have had other issues with the pro as well, and he went back to this standard 1301 comp. Also, not a fan of the blue receiver.
The Pro CONSTANTLY ghost loaded when quad loading or even when my GF loads 2's. I tried a new shell latch and many other things. I surmise that the largest factor at play is the new lifter. With it being held down the shell release is not only more exposed and prone to being hit, but it is also less supported and and be pressed straight down and will trigger a shell to kick out onto the lifter. I tried contracting Beretta but they basically told to me to get lost and send my gun to a Smith on my own dollar because they aren't accepting guns due to COVID. I purchases a new original extended lifter and swapped that into the pro. Gun works fine now. Second issue is the new handguard. It doesn't fit snuggly to the receiver at all. I tried tapering and shaping in down with a Dremel but it still doesn't fit great and constantly knocked shells out of my hand when quad loading. At the end of it I kept on shooting my Original Comp due to the issues I was having and once my Pro was finally shorted out my GF started using that. She prefers a shorter stock, so off came the Mega Kick Off + and on went an original stock. Also I hate the new bolt release design, so I'll probably swap that out for an original at some point. I've been using 1301's for about 6 seasons now, honestly sage yourself the money and just get one of the updated Origional Comps and swap in/out parts to your liking is my suggestion. Unless you absolutely have to have the blue gun... View Quote Also, it seems that the kickoff has a funky recoil system which is similar to the old "comp stocks" that had spring systems in the stock to reduce recoil. The problem is the entire stock compresses in and the gun "moves" and you can bang your trigger finger on the trigger guard. Not a pleasant recoil impulse. |
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[#2]
I have a comp pro and a tactical. Both have the tick off and I have two A400’s that both have the kick off.
I would not buy a Beretta in 12 gauge and leave off the kick off. Works fantastic. I never hit my finger on the trigger guard. |
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Originally Posted By mike103: I have a comp pro and a tactical. Both have the tick off and I have two A400’s that both have the kick off. I would not buy a Beretta in 12 gauge and leave off the kick off. Works fantastic. I never hit my finger on the trigger guard. View Quote Way too long of a LOP. The 1301's recoil is pretty mild as it is and if I want, a limbsaver gives more recoil reduction anyway! |
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The gen1 Comp (non-Pro) iirc has the serial number right on the same spot you'd want to grind away to enlarge the loading port. Also, it's simple to add a stock adapter/Magpul stock and adjust the LOP if that's what you want (no kick-off setup). I have a gen1 Comp I need to sell. Been sitting in the safe, never fired, since pre-Covid!
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[#5]
Comp Pro lop is shorten-able via 1” spacer. About a 2 minute job. Attached File
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Originally Posted By BigDeeeeeeee: Comp Pro lop is shorten-able via 1” spacer. About a 2 minute job.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27773/IMG_0537_jpeg-3276095.JPG View Quote From what I can see, the shortest you can make that stock is 14". |
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Originally Posted By Blain: From what I can see, the shortest you can make that stock is 14". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Blain: Originally Posted By BigDeeeeeeee: Comp Pro lop is shorten-able via 1” spacer. About a 2 minute job.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27773/IMG_0537_jpeg-3276095.JPG From what I can see, the shortest you can make that stock is 14". My tape says 14 3/4 with so 13 3/4 wo. My Benelli M4 is 14. |
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[#8]
My comp pro came with C, IC, IM chokes.
The kickoff is impressive but not sure the overall gun was worth upgrading from my trusty old Benelli m1. |
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[#9]
I thought the pro lifter comes in the Competition…. I know in the Pro -… but can anyone confirm.
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Pro only. Regular comp comes with standard.
Does the pro lifter make it harder to ghost load? Originally Posted By BigDeeeeeeee: Originally Posted By Blain: Originally Posted By BigDeeeeeeee: Comp Pro lop is shorten-able via 1” spacer. About a 2 minute job.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27773/IMG_0537_jpeg-3276095.JPG View Quote From what I can see, the shortest you can make that stock is 14". View Quote My tape says 14 3/4 with so 13 3/4 wo. My Benelli M4 is 14. View Quote You have to have some spacer in the stock, and the shortest available is a quarter inch spacer that doesn't come with the gun. So 14" minimum if you buy the extra. |
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Originally Posted By Blain: You have to have some spacer in the stock, and the shortest available is a quarter inch spacer that doesn't come with the gun. So 14" minimum if you buy the extra. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By BigDeeeeeeee: I have the 1” spacer that came with the gun installed so lop is the 14 3/4”. I had the spacer out last week so a friends teen daughter could try it out at 13 3/4”. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigDeeeeeeee: Originally Posted By Blain: You have to have some spacer in the stock, and the shortest available is a quarter inch spacer that doesn't come with the gun. So 14" minimum if you buy the extra. I read that if you put no spacer in whatsoever that you need different shorter screws, or it won't screw down all the way tight. |
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Originally Posted By Blain: I read that if you put no spacer in whatsoever that you need different shorter screws, or it won't screw down all the way tight. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By BigDeeeeeeee: I didn’t use different screws although it wouldn’t hurt just so you don’t have to drive them so far, but it did tighten down just fine with the long ones. View Quote So what are your thoughts on the kick off stock? Thoughts on the comp pro in general vs the regular comp (in the view of a combat / self defense gun)? |
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Also. Is there a aftermarket recoil pad for the Comp? Direct fit??
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[#17]
I’ll try and look it up
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Originally Posted By Blain: So what are your thoughts on the kick off stock? Thoughts on the comp pro in general vs the regular comp (in the view of a combat / self defense gun)? View Quote Anything that reduces recoil is a good thing, I shoot tens of thousands of target rounds a year. That and the pro lifter make it worth the difference to me. Before I got the 1301 I thought that the one shotgun I would never get rid of was the M4. The M4 is still the one I trust the most but the 1301 would be the one that’s easier to live with. The 24” barrel and with mag ext giving 10+1 capacity would be hard to argue with. |
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Originally Posted By BigDeeeeeeee: Anything that reduces recoil is a good thing, I shoot tens of thousands of target rounds a year. That and the pro lifter make it worth the difference to me. Before I got the 1301 I thought that the one shotgun I would never get rid of was the M4. The M4 is still the one I trust the most but the 1301 would be the one that’s easier to live with. The 24” barrel and with mag ext giving 10+1 capacity would be hard to argue with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigDeeeeeeee: Originally Posted By Blain: So what are your thoughts on the kick off stock? Thoughts on the comp pro in general vs the regular comp (in the view of a combat / self defense gun)? Anything that reduces recoil is a good thing, I shoot tens of thousands of target rounds a year. That and the pro lifter make it worth the difference to me. Before I got the 1301 I thought that the one shotgun I would never get rid of was the M4. The M4 is still the one I trust the most but the 1301 would be the one that’s easier to live with. The 24” barrel and with mag ext giving 10+1 capacity would be hard to argue with. 10+1+1! ;) So you don't mind the length of pull, the rubber feel, or the spring compression action when it recoils? No issues with the pro lifter? Read some people having feeding issues / other difficulties with theirs. Did you used to have a regular comp, or a tactical? |
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Originally Posted By Blain: 10+1+1! ;) So you don't mind the length of pull, the rubber feel, or the spring compression action when it recoils? No issues with the pro lifter? Read some people having feeding issues / other difficulties with theirs. Did you used to have a regular comp, or a tactical? View Quote Attached File The only issue I’ve had is after 10,000ish rounds the mag follower wore enough to rub the lifter causing the lifter to not drop back down. The problem is if you eject a live round the bolt won’t lock back with the lifter stuck in the up position. Anyway, it’s a follower wear issue not a lifter problem, now I know and have ordered a couple extra. I love this gun, don’t care about the ringing noise, rubbery surface, or the lop(it fits me great). Never had the Comp or a Tactical. |
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[#21]
We will see if it can run with a Benelli M4
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