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Posted: 1/16/2012 2:28:50 PM EDT
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I think that these years were peak bullpup season in the U.S.A. Everything seems so dull now |
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I think everything will ramp up especially if it looks like Barry will be back. If he is it will be open season on us. Advice : Ammo Full-cap mags rifle and pistol. And that black gun you always wanted... Get it if you can. I have read that if he gets in he wants to renew the Clinton AWB but make it permanent. |
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I think everything will ramp up especially if it looks like Barry will be back. If he is it will be open season on us. Advice : Ammo Full-cap mags rifle and pistol. And that black gun you always wanted... Get it if you can. I have read that if he gets in he wants to renew the Clinton AWB but make it permanent. Not possible due to lack of votes in Congress. Even when it was Democratic majority, there wasn't enough votes and the first couple of months Pres. Obama flatly came out and stated that AWB can't happen due to not having enough votes in the Congress. |
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I think everything will ramp up especially if it looks like Barry will be back. If he is it will be open season on us. Advice : Ammo Full-cap mags rifle and pistol. And that black gun you always wanted... Get it if you can. I have read that if he gets in he wants to renew the Clinton AWB but make it permanent. I agree bro; We will see so many executive orders out of this guy all of those different colored ink pens of his will be running on empty. He won't have to worry about using the house or pissing either side off when there is no possibility of a 3rd term. The 2nd Amendment will stay intact. Welcome to the World of Muzzle Loading Rifles and Cap - Ball Revolvers. |
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I think everything will ramp up especially if it looks like Barry will be back. If he is it will be open season on us. Advice : Ammo Full-cap mags rifle and pistol. And that black gun you always wanted... Get it if you can. I have read that if he gets in he wants to renew the Clinton AWB but make it permanent. I have read alot. And it is usually accompanied by a request for funds to oppose it... He is not going to get anything through the house. Even the Senate has a bunch of pro gun democrats in it. This smacks of the panick buying that we saw in 2008. The sky is not falling. |
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I think that these years were peak bullpup season in the U.S.A. Everything seems so dull now Given that the biggest force in the US bullpup market screwed their customers and then hid behind bankruptcy protection, my enthusiasm went from a winning Kentucky Derby stallion to a broken down gelding too weak to pull a corpse cart. |
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I think everything will ramp up especially if it looks like Barry will be back. If he is it will be open season on us. Advice : Ammo Full-cap mags rifle and pistol. And that black gun you always wanted... Get it if you can. I have read that if he gets in he wants to renew the Clinton AWB but make it permanent. Novel concept. Ask people who bought guns from Nov '08-'09 how that worked out for them. You can spot them because they are the assholes asking $600 for a WASR in the classifieds who are "selling at a loss". |
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As stated, Barry will go it alone "it would be nice if Congress help" but he thinks he doesn't need them.
I know the prices whent sky high back then and ammo was almost impossible to locate. Like they say on TV. AR-15 Oct. 12 $1500. Barry still president in Nov 2012....It will be priceless. (if they don't come and get them) |
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As stated, Barry will go it alone "it would be nice if Congress help" but he thinks he doesn't need them. I know the prices whent sky high back then and ammo was almost impossible to locate. Like they say on TV. AR-15 Oct. 12 $1500. Barry still president in Nov 2012....It will be priceless. (if they don't come and get them) The only way Pres. Obama can pass equivalent of AWB 2(Assault Weapon Ban 2) w/o Congress is through EO(Executive Order). BUT EO isn't the same thing as new legislation. AWB 2 would be a new piece of legislation and thus, cannot be legally created via EO by the president. If Pres. Obama or any president tried to create a new piece of legislation via executive order, it can be challenged in court and overturned, thus rendering it void. Even EO which resulted in war have had authorizing resolutions from Congress. It doesn't matter if the president is from Democratic Party or GOP. Their power to pass legislative bills w/o Congress is very limited despite what Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and/or other political pundits may say or write. The only way AWB 2 can be passed is via Congress. Pres. Obama, despite receiving funding from various anti-gun lobbies, early in his first term, when there was Democratic majority in Congress, stated that there simply wasn't enough votes to pass AWB 2. Also, remember not all Democratic legislators are anti-gun. Some of them are pro-gun and will shoot down AWB 2. With the current Congressional makeup of GOP majority, AWB 2 is a virtual legislative impossibility. As for "permanent" AWB, most bills passed in Congress have sunset clause, whether it's by Republican/GOP or by Democrat. Why? Because then the special interest lobby will have to CONTINUE to deliver MONEY+VOTES to legislators. FWIW, PAC/superPAC/SIG all prefer SUNSET clause to permanent bill. Why? Because permanent bill would mean END to lobbyists' career(income stream). In the end, political and financial well being of politicians and lobbyists who back them up are intimately tied together. Remember, NRA is a special interest group and have lobby in Washington D.C. So does anti-gun groups. So does various industry groups/firms like Apollo(involved in various scandals having to do with taxpayer funded(in form of student loans) for-profit schools), various Wall St. firms, Google, Merck, etc. And lot of these firms give MONEY to both GOP and Democrats. Blackwater gave millions to GOP/Bush and in return got huge amount of government contracts with number of bidders of exactly ONE: Blackwater. PS 1 common assumption that's made is GOP is pro-gun and DNC(Democrats) are anti-gun. In reality, it depends on voting block that voted for them. GOP politicians who got elected by anti-gun voting block will vote anti-gun (e.g., GOP politicians from anti-gun state like California). DNC politicians who got elected by pro-gun voting block will vote pro-gun (e.g., DNC politicians from rural, pro-gun South). However, once you get to NATIONAL STAGE (Washington D.C.), voting block/SIG(Special Interest Group) changes and formerly anti-gun GOP politician will usually vote pro-gun, esp. if they aspire to be future US President. And formerly pro-gun DNC politician will vote anti-gun. If Pres. Obama was from Texas instead of Illinois, he would have being pro-gun at local level and once he aspired for the seat of US presidency as a Democratic candidate at national level, he would have turned anti-gun. Politics is ALL ABOUT VOTING BLOCK(MONEY+VOTES). They override ideology and has to. If a politician doesn't have votes or money, there is no way he could be elected or remain in office long term. |
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I harbor no illusions of more AWB stupidity. Politics now aren't like the politics of the 1990s. Dynamics of politics are the same, whether today or during 1990s or for that matter, during Reagan years(1980s). You have to remove the rhetoric and focus on actual action/numbers, not what folks, esp. political pundits, say or write. Political pundits, like the politicians and lobbyists, exist to serve themselves first and foremost. For example, Reagan imposed tariff/limits on foreign auto import(now you know why foreign car companies make their cars in US) despite all the talk about free market and also had S&L crisis happen(due to deregulation), which was deemed to be the greatest theft from taxpayer/worst public scandal back then. Not to mention about TEFRA(largest tax increase in peace time history back then). And US government GOT BIGGER under Reagan, as well as DEFICIT, and US government's share of GDP got larger, compared to Ford/Carter. While Reagan lowered the marginal tax rate, he also raised other taxes such as in TEFRA in order to make up for it. However, with the passing of landmark US Supreme Court's decision in Citizens United vs. FEC last year in favor of unlimited spending by corporations, expect PAC/superPAC and SIG(Special Interest Groups) to have EVEN MORE INFLUENCE on political process than ever before. BTW, Citizens United vs. FEC also allows unlimited spending by union but expect power of union to be negligible compared to that of corporations due to declining membership(they comprised around 12% of US labor force in 2010 according to BLS(Bureau of Labor Statistics)). MORE MONEY = MORE POLITICAL INFLUENCE. Politicians, whether Republican or Democrat or Tea Party or Libertarians, are people and not immune to MONEY and various favors MONEY CAN BUY. 3rd party data and studies shows that even medical doctors who are sworn to Hippocratic Oath have being swayed in their medical practice(recommendation, decision regarding medical procedure, devices, drugs) when pampered by pharmaceutical and medical device industries with money and/or gifts. Russian oil executives via British law firm James & Sarch gave $1M to US Family Network linked to Tom Delay(Texan GOP member of US Congress back then) to influence Congressman Delay's vote in 2006 regarding IMF bailout of Russian economy. Somehow, I don't think Russian executives had the BEST INTEREST of US in their mind when they gave away $1M. The other thing is that corporate interest and US national interest are not necessary the same. Ditto for other SIG such as Israeli lobby...Israel's national interest and US national interest are most certainly not the same unless Israel is 51st state of US(in which case, it make sense to give billions of dollars to Israel every year because they are such a poor country (;-)....LOL). Also, expect the source of funding to be more difficult to track with increased political campaign spending by corporations. This is especially true for ads by super PACs. This is due to difficulty of tracking down 3rd party groups funding the ad. Quite often, the name of the group and actual financial backer bear very little relationship to each other. It's much easier if the ad was funded directly by the candidate themselves. |
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