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7/15/2008 7:05:02 PM EDT
I can't find the data for 55 gr FMJST hornady bullets with H335 powder and CCI 450 primers. Some manuals show the powder and don't have the hornady bullet or vise versa. The speer manual showes start with 24 grs and max 26 grs with sreer 55gr FMJBT. Will this work with the hornady 55 gr FMJBT bullet?
7/15/2008 7:44:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Is the Speer load show the CCI-450 primer?

If so, and the only change in the given data is the bullet, begin with the start load and work up carefully.
7/15/2008 8:37:37 PM EDT
[#2]
PLEASE........DON'T TAKE THIS IN A PERSONAL WAY.

It's meant to be GENERAL INFO.
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Handloading comes with some RISK.

An individual needs to gauge his or her own risk tolerance level to each situation in their life.

What's acceptable to ME........may not be, to someone else.  

That being said, to be on the SAFE side, individuals should go BY THE BOOK (Re-loading Manual).  
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But, there are times in life, when the BOOK may not mention the exact combination of components, that they plan to use.  

So what is someone, in that situation, suppose to do?

Go out and purchase the components, to suit the BOOK that they happen to have?

Or, come to the forum, looking for someone else, who has used that exact combination (or close to it), to give them a thumbs up?

Or, hope that someone has the "right" manual.  And, that they'll look it up, to give them the GTG?

Or, push on?  KNOWING that handloading is part experimentation and comes with SOME RISK.
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We KNOW that firearms are different and that results will vary.  And, that a 100% SAFETY GUARANTEE is unlikely.

And, as for INFORMATION on the Internet?

Well.......DYK?  There is a forum, that will NOT allow load data to be posted.  It's because, they fear a law suit.

THINK.......IF, something should something go wrong.  Could they be in the loop?

Perhaps, someone once had a bad experience. Perhaps, someone (right or wrongly) sued. Perhaps, a settlement was reached or fault was found (or not).  Either way, it costs big $$$$$$$$.  So, how is a company (forum page) suppose to defend itself?   Perhaps, a simple WARNING (or ban on load data)?

Blame it on the LAWYERS (or thank them).

So, moving on........

Especially, with LOAD DATA.

PLEASE carefully check what is said on an Internet forum page......against published manuals.......you never KNOW when someone is gonna #&%$ with you.

Thank GOD.....it hasn't happened here. But, who knows what the future holds?
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NOTE THIS ADVICE: LOAD DATA SUBSTITUTION OF COMPONENTS

Try reading this subject:  How do changing various components affect chamber pressure and velocity?

www.frfrogspad.com/miscelld.htm#components

So, perhaps now you know why that BOOK will say not to change components from their "tested" loads.
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THEN..........FROM SPEER..........


IMPORTANT NOTE: Reloading data published by SPEER are for SPEER bullets. Many of our bullets are of unique construction; there is no such thing as "generic loading data" any more. Other bullet makes may produce significantly different pressures and velocities. We make no warranty that our published loads are safe with another make of bullet. You, the reloader, bear the ultimate responsibility for knowing your firearm, loading equipment, and techniques.


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So.......perhaps, now.......KNOWING a little more (or not).  

What should one do, when faced with the situation?

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WARNING:  My way of doing things may not be suitable to some of the other folks out there........so, take it for what it's worth.......this is/was, only my advice, which you got for FREE, so it's only worth that much (if anything at all).

ME.......I'd take into consideration my RISK TOLERANCE LEVEL.  

I'd search all my available resources (various published manuals).  And, do some Internet checks at various powder and bullet manufacturer's web sites.  I'd attempt to figure out a SAFE (acceptable RISK for ME) plan of action, using the available data.  

Remember: Start low and work your way up.
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Do I need to say more?
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Aloha, Mark
7/16/2008 4:27:33 PM EDT
[#3]
The Speer manual calls for a magnum primer. It does not spec the CCI450, the manual doed not state any primers.
7/16/2008 4:28:33 PM EDT
[#4]
The speer manual calls for a magnum primer with H335 powder.
7/16/2008 6:57:05 PM EDT
[#5]

What's your reloading experience?

This is the same advice I've posted in another thread on this page -

One of the unchanging facts about reloading is that you'll almost never find data for the exact combination of components you want to shoot.

So, what you do in that case is use the never changing advice to reduce the maximum load listed for a similar bullet of the same weight (or just a grain or two different) by 10%, and use that for your starting load.  If more performance is desired, carefully increase the charge weight watching for a load that produces the best accuracy without showing signs of high pressure.

That's about the best anyone can do, and it adds an element of interest in my opinion.
7/17/2008 9:40:54 AM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the information. I am new at reloading, as you can tell.
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