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10/6/2009 8:28:01 PM EDT
I am thinking of getting a Tikka T3 Hunter (wood stock) in 338 Win Mag.  The rifle should be right at 7 pounds before adding the scope.

The guys in the gun store are telling me I will regret it due to excessive recoil.... I guess 2 customers have tried to trade in T3s in 338 already as it was too much for them.

I have shot a friend's Remington XCR in .375 H&H with factory loads.  The rifle is about 7.6 pounds, and only had iron sights.

I didn't think the .375 was too bad.

It looks to me like they throw the same weight bullet about the same speed.... with the edge perhaps going to the .375.

Is the 338 really likely to be a harder kicker?  Am I over looking something?  Thanks.
10/6/2009 8:37:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Recoil velocity of the WM is significantly worse. I handle a .375 but the 338 is beyond me, at least in the 8.5 pound weight range. Furthermore the effect on your shoulder is a slight concern but the scope trying to rip your eyebrow off is a problem.
10/6/2009 8:43:21 PM EDT
[#2]
I had a big heavy Ruger and it wasn't bad at all––-just got rid of the gun cause there wasn't nothin big enough around here to shoot it with.
10/6/2009 10:20:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Dad has a ruger 77 stainless in 338 winmag with a synthetic stock and shooting it before he had the brake put on was not bad as he has a Leupold on it.

Also are you a big husky guy or a more slender.

Big husky guys feel the recoil more than us skinny guys.
10/6/2009 10:27:48 PM EDT
[#4]
The ring around the ocular lens on a Leupold is sharp. Ask me how I learned that one.
10/7/2009 4:01:25 AM EDT
[#5]






Recoil on a .338 Win. mag is stout, but managable.  If you're not going to be firing 60 or so rounds working up loads, you shouldn't have an issue.

10/7/2009 5:22:28 AM EDT
[#6]
I find the recoil on the 300mags and 375H7H's I've fired to be tolerable and the 35 Whelen and 350Mag to be not bad either....... but the 338 I do not care for! YMMV
10/7/2009 5:56:06 AM EDT
[#7]
You could always put a brake on it.
10/7/2009 9:46:28 AM EDT
[#8]
If recoil isn't manageable consider adding weight to the gun, wearing a shoulder pad while sighting in, or downloading the round.  It doesn't take much additional weight to make a big difference.  As I'm learning to deal with increased hearing loss I am starting to hate muzzle breaks more and more.  Recoil is temporary - hearing loss is forever.  Opinions vary on breaks and hearing loss though of course.

You won't feel the recoil when hunting so it seems like managing the recoil during range sessions might be the goal?  I shoot a heavy stocked Ruger 338 Win Mag.

Good luck with the decision,

Matt
10/7/2009 4:42:32 PM EDT
[#9]
Friend has a Rem 700 in 338 win mag, rifle weighs 7-8 lbs, shot some Hornady 225 gr  heavy mag and it was downright miserable..three rounds was enough for me.

375 H&H is very mild in comparison....... esp in a heavier Safari grade. Standard Rem 700 / Win 70 are fairly pleasant shooters also and the 375 H&H is a damn accurate shooting cartridge.
10/7/2009 5:29:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Might as well get a .375.
10/7/2009 5:35:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Might as well get a .375.
10/7/2009 6:12:33 PM EDT
[#12]
I actually would like a .375 H&H, but I am having a hard time finding it in a rifle I really like that is chambered for it... I want classic style wood stock, floated barrel, good trigger, and integral mounting for scope rings (no seperate bases).  I am not particularly looking for iron sights, or to spend over a grand on the rifle.

Hence the T3 Hunter.  But it isn't offered in 375.
10/7/2009 6:58:20 PM EDT
[#13]
Hell, I have a LIGHTWEIGHT BAR in .338 that is an absolute joy to shoot!    True, the recoil impulse is a lot longer than an '06, but certainly no more bruising.  Extremely accurate too.

I've shot sobot loads in my A/5 that kick a helluva lot more than that .338.
10/7/2009 7:15:19 PM EDT
[#14]
It is just a 300 win mag necked up for a 338 bullet. In the heavier bullet weights they can rap you pretty good. I'd get a 375 before a 338 any day. You can zing 235 gr or lob 300 gr bullets out of the 375 and do just about any type of hunting you could imagine.
10/7/2009 7:54:37 PM EDT
[#15]
I have the T3 lite in 338 Win Mag and on he bench its brutal, but its also close to a pound lighter than your rifle. When hunting I dont notice the recoil, when shooting while standing at the range its managable, but not something I want to shoot 25-30 rounds with.
10/7/2009 8:23:24 PM EDT
[#16]
The .338 beat the .300 winmag to the market by roughly five years.
10/8/2009 8:00:55 AM EDT
[#17]
If the rifle weighs at 7 lbs it's going to beat the piss out of you, unless you're a big guy.

MAKE SURE you have a scope with good eye relief.
10/8/2009 3:41:45 PM EDT
[#18]

I've had and shot both .338 and .375,the .338 was a Ruger No.1 with a 26in barrel all of 7 1/2 lbs and with 250gr rounds it'd make you take a step back,off a bench? well it could mess you up let's just say-don't ask how I know








Now my .375?
started out as an A-Bolt stainless with a BOSS break/barrel thing,which I hated with a flaming passion,so I took it to a local smith and had him chop off the threading and recrown it,I had thought the whole thing was gonna be 22-23in~wrong it was 24in with the brake and about 20in without....


So I now have a 18 1/2 .375 H&H carbine
but you know what? it's sweet as hell,about 7lbs all up and recoil with 270gr loads is akin to a .338 with 250's,300's are a trip though but you KNOW you have power in hand with it!








What it boils down to is if you can shoot a 12ga you can shoot a .338,if you can shoot a .338 you can handle a .375 recoil is a tad sharper with a .338 but it can be done without any problems.


The two things to keep in mind are this:


Nether is a gun you'll want to shoot a lot,I can shoot about ten rounds of .375 and that's it,so if you want to sight it in I suggest you ether shoot a few over a day (four or five then rest an hour) or stretch it out over a few days and do it standing!


Next I think both guns get their reputation of hard recoil from those who shoot from a bench,the .338 is a fucking MONSTER off a bench,I don't want to know what the .375 is like
but if you need to get a shooting pad AND a sandbag between you and the gun and just go for it.

10/8/2009 3:52:38 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I actually would like a .375 H&H, but I am having a hard time finding it in a rifle I really like that is chambered for it... I want classic style wood stock, floated barrel, good trigger, and integral mounting for scope rings (no seperate bases).  I am not particularly looking for iron sights, or to spend over a grand on the rifle.

Hence the T3 Hunter.  But it isn't offered in 375.


You might want to look at the Ruger Hawkeye African in 375 Ruger (same/better ballistics as the 375H&H, but in a standard long action) ..... has many of the specs you are looking for - I have a Hawkeye Alaskan in 375 Ruger:
www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=7129&return=Y

375 Ruger specs with a comparison to 375H&H: www.hornady.com/story.php?s=627

My 20" Alaskan with a Leupold 3-9x40 Vari-XII:





10/8/2009 4:05:14 PM EDT
[#20]
I've shot more critters with a 338 than everything else combined. A solid hit with a 338 and you won't need to be a skilled tracker.

338's kick some, that's a given. But they only kick shooting off the bench.

10/8/2009 4:22:16 PM EDT
[#21]
30-378 FTW
10/8/2009 5:06:01 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
If the rifle weighs at 7 lbs it's going to beat the piss out of you, unless you're a big guy.

MAKE SURE you have a scope with good eye relief.


If that's true then I suggest putting you back against a tree or wall and letting fly.
10/8/2009 8:19:42 PM EDT
[#23]
I had an A-Bolt in 338 back in high school. I think I weighed maybe 140.
First round off the bench took me right out of my shooting glasses and hearing protection.

That was a stout recoiling rifle...
10/11/2009 12:40:56 PM EDT
[#24]
Well a local sporting good store was blowing these out for $1,350 so I went ahead and picked one up in .375 H&H:

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdSpecsView?model=7501

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=7501&return=Y



No floated barrel, but the trigger is really good, particularly for a Ruger.

As heavy as it is, it should be a real pussy cat to shoot.

10/11/2009 3:39:33 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Well a local sporting good store was blowing these out for $1,350 so I went ahead and picked one up in .375 H&H:

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdSpecsView?model=7501

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=7501&return=Y

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/images/Products/43L.jpg

No floated barrel, but the trigger is really good, particularly for a Ruger.

As heavy as it is, it should be a real pussy cat to shoot.



Very nice, one of those in .458 is on my "someday" list.

10/11/2009 8:33:22 PM EDT
[#26]
I shot 1 round through my friend's lightweight .338 WM, standing, using a rest.

I'd rather shoot 20 standard velocity 12ga slugs through my 12ga 870P than shoot 1 round through that MF'er again.
10/12/2009 8:43:44 AM EDT
[#27]
Good choice.  I have a Winchester in 375 H&H, and with 260 or 270 grain bullets it has trajectory very similar to a 30-06 with 180 grain bullets.  The recoil is not bad at all IMHO.
10/14/2009 2:40:20 PM EDT
[#28]
A 338 has recoil?  Say it aint so.  I am a fairly small guy and I don't even notice them anymore.  My boy started shooting the 50s and 408s at 7 years.  He will sit down and shoot the lap mag and 408 until I tell him to stop spending money.  Like I tell everybody that wants to shoot my guns.  Recoil is how you manage it.  God bless.
10/14/2009 2:50:33 PM EDT
[#29]
Anybody can shoot a twenty pound gun with a muzzle brake. Try an eight pounder without.
10/14/2009 6:42:35 PM EDT
[#30]
and small people generally handle recoil better than large people.
10/16/2009 2:01:08 PM EDT
[#31]
The lap mags are 9.5# with optics.  One of my 408s has no muzzle brake.  We occasionally put a device on the end.  That one needs a barrel anyway and the one that is always shot.  Just placed my order for a 25MM.  Yep.  4oz at 1450fps.
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