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9/7/2015 11:39:49 PM EDT
All other things being equal, and assuming a 16" barrel and purpose tailored subsonic loads, which would be quieter?  My uneducated guess would be the 38, is that correct?  but would there be much difference between the 2?



I have a dream to move out of this god forsaken state and get one of these two caliber barrels for my encore and suppress it because it sound like it'd be fun as hell.  
9/8/2015 1:18:12 AM EDT
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I have a 16.5" barreled CVA Hunter carbine in 44 Magnum.  I chose that caliber as you can get 300-320 gr bullets going around 1000 fps.  You can shoot 44 special out of it, but there is absolutely no advantage if you are handloading, especially with the long heavy bullets.  Just seat them deeper in the magnum case.  You might be quieter with the .357's, but you're also pushing less energy and less frontal area.  Will do much less damage on game and poke smaller holes in targets.  Biggest problem I had with the smaller gun was finding somebody that made a barrel with a twist rate fast enough for the larger pills.  There is a 77/357 thread here you might want to check out.
9/8/2015 5:05:30 AM EDT
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So If I wanted to go as quiet as possible, in the realm of "easily available" components, would 38spl be a good choice?  I'm thinking like De Lisle Carbine quiet?  I know i'd need a massive can for that, but hey, as long as I'm daydreaming...
9/8/2015 5:14:09 AM EDT
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In the realm of subsonic pistol bullets, smaller diameter is almost always easier to suppress given equivalent silencer size. That isn't always the best reason, though: a .22 would be quieter than either but might not suit your energy or terminal ballistic needs.
9/8/2015 5:18:42 AM EDT
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In the realm of subsonic pistol bullets, smaller diameter is almost always easier to suppress given equivalent silencer size. That isn't always the best reason, though: a .22 would be quieter than either but might not suit your energy or terminal ballistic needs.
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10-4.  Actually the only suppressed gun i've played with is a .22 and it was a friggin blast, but in this day dream I'd like to be able take game bigger than a squirrel.

 
9/8/2015 5:53:23 AM EDT
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I think .38spc is a great combination of suppression, cost and fun. Especially if you get (or make) a can that can handle .357 Mag pressures, your range stretches from paper punching to deer hunting.

I use my Ruger 77/357 and Liberty Mystic combo for targets and pest control so far. With 148gr wadcutters it's just as quiet as a suppressed .22lr.

ETA: NH would be happy to have you.

Yesterday.
9/8/2015 8:29:51 AM EDT
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All things considered, the .38 special will be quieter suppressed compared to a suppressed .44 spc.

The .38 can push a bullet to subsonic velocity with less powder than it takes a .44 spc to push its heavier bullet to the same velocity.   Less powder means less gas volume to slow and cool.     Also, bullet flight noise is directly related to the size of the bullet (cant find the link at the moment).      

Both .38 and .44 are totally worth suppressing, but if you're after the quietest shot possible,  38 spc wins out.

I run a Handi Rifle chambered in .357 Mag with a Thompson Machine Isis 2 can.     With 158 grain .38's, it is stupid quiet.     Think of a big, reloadable .22 that hits much harder.    Ive used it so much this Summer,  I cant even remember the last time I shot a .22

Its nice not having to worry where I will score my next brick of .22 ammo.     I can reload my own .38's with 158 grain pills or buy them anywhere without limits or being out of stock.
9/8/2015 9:01:59 AM EDT
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I think .38spc is a great combination of suppression, cost and fun. Especially if you get (or make) a can that can handle .357 Mag pressures, your range stretches from paper punching to deer hunting.

I use my Ruger 77/357 and Liberty Mystic combo for targets and pest control so far. With 148gr wadcutters it's just as quiet as a suppressed .22lr.

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Just grab whatever non +P 38 SPL loads you can find.
Or if you reload, 77/357 with 245gr PCCB subs in 38SPL case using this Osprey 9



Little known 35 Remington fact, TC put fast twist rifling in them. This one stabilizes 300gr Subs perfectly. Like cloverleaf groups at 50yds perfectly...
9/8/2015 10:08:13 AM EDT
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Little known 35 Remington fact, TC put fast twist rifling in them. This one stabilizes 300gr Subs perfectly. Like cloverleaf groups at 50yds perfectly...
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Yes, but they use the same blanks for their .357 Magnum barrels, so you get 1-in-14" for either.
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