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Posted: 3/1/2016 3:15:26 AM EDT
 I've seen these a few times advertised. I was wondering if anyone has actually used them and what your feelings on them are. worth the cost or just a waste of money? the guns I have suppressors on have had the barrel's cut by reputable venders from this site. no problems at all. I do, however, go shooting with my brother and brother-in-law and I don't really know how concentric their threads are. one has a 16 inch barrel bushmaster (from back in the old days when bushy was bushy), and the other has a stag15 with a 16 inch barrel. I would hate to put one of my suppressors on one of their guns and get a baffle strike. I've done the very unscientific method of taking the bolt out of my uppers and looking down the barrel and if it looks straight, go shoot the hell out of it. any real world use and findings would be helpful. the cost isn't terribly prohibitive, but damn, $75 is $75. thanks. |
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Having many suppressors and never having an issue or need. I would suggest they are a waste of money for me.
Invest in quality suppressors and barrels and I see little value in one. I do not loan my suppressors or allow anyone(brother in law included) to put on their guns. My cans stay on my hosts and if family wants to shoot suppressed, they shoot my guns. |
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They're an extremely valuable tool and work quite well. Ask this guy if he's glad he used one.
But, you might want to try the $15 version that a lot of people use with good success. |
| Most Suppressors are tested during production and shouldn't have issues so it would have to be an issue with your barrel threads. Assuming you aren't buying some cheapo barrel it should be fine. I wouldn't pay $75 fora rod, just get something close in dia for like $5 |
| I purchased both the 5.56 and 7.62 versions of this. It's a small amount of money for peace of mind. It's more of use when you mount muzzle devices for barrels that have no shoulder. There have been plenty of people who have found their can was misaligned due to whatever reason. |
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I purchased both the 5.56 and 7.62 versions of this. It's a small amount of money for peace of mind. It's more of use when you mount muzzle devices for barrels that have no shoulder. There have been plenty of people who have found their can was misaligned due to whatever reason. They are great insurance. Sure would suck to damage your $1000 can you waited 6 months to get. |
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Quoted: They're an extremely valuable tool and work quite well. Ask this guy if he's glad he used one. But, you might want to try the $15 version that a lot of people use with good success. yeah, I think I will go with the $15 one. thanks for the info. |
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Quoted: Most Suppressors are tested during production and shouldn't have issues so it would have to be an issue with your barrel threads. Assuming you aren't buying some cheapo barrel it should be fine. I wouldn't pay $75 fora rod, just get something close in dia for like $5 I have two SBR's that were cut by very reputable sponsors on this site. I'm not really concerned with those two. I also have a factory colt 6920. I've never had any problems with it but the barrel threads have never been checked for concentricity. $75 seemed like a rip-off to me, too. |
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Quoted: They are great insurance. Sure would suck to damage your $1000 can you waited 6 months to get. Quoted: Quoted: I purchased both the 5.56 and 7.62 versions of this. It's a small amount of money for peace of mind. It's more of use when you mount muzzle devices for barrels that have no shoulder. There have been plenty of people who have found their can was misaligned due to whatever reason. They are great insurance. Sure would suck to damage your $1000 can you waited 6 months to get. same logic on my end. I'd rather know before hand than find out after a baffle strike. ETA: than....stupid spelling |
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These are good tools to have. People would be shocked if they checked some of their QD mounted suppressors. So many people think that because their barrel is from a reputable company that concentricity is not an issue. When you stack tolerances like barrel thread, QD threads, and suppressor bores you get alignment issues that are more prevalent than you would think.
Just because you are off center doesn't mean you will have baffle/end cap strikes. Accuracy is also effected even if you are off center ever so slightly. |
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Quoted: These are good tools to have. People would be shocked if they checked some of their QD mounted suppressors. So many people think that because their barrel is from a reputable company that concentricity is not an issue. When you stack tolerances like barrel thread, QD threads, and suppressor bores you get alignment issues that are more prevalent than you would think. Just because you are off center doesn't mean you will have baffle/end cap strikes. Accuracy is also effected even if you are off center ever so slightly. good info. I put one on order from CNC warrior. i'll check my barrels and mounts and post results when I get a chance. |
| I bought one because I was having a Remington 700 cut down and wanted to check the work before I put a suppressor on it. The 700 was fine but when I used the rod on my Sig 716 it was out of spec. I never would have checked it otherwise and only dumb luck stopped me from shooting the Sig before I got the rod. Say what you want, I think it was worth it. |
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Buy a piece of drill rod and chamfer the ends (buy from a reputable dealer such as Grainger or Northern Tool, Zoro Tools, etc., roll on glass to ensure straightness - or install in bore with can on and spin to be sure alignment does not "index" to position of spinning rod)
Threw one down the bore of a Ruger American Ranch Rifle in 300 BLK. Saved a future baffle strike and potential accuracy issues. Eye-balling it it looked OK, not bad. But not perfect. Checked with rod. Was later confirmed to have 8-9 1000'ths runout. Factory Threads were bad. Joe |
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Buy a piece of drill rod and chamfer the ends (buy from a reputable dealer such as Grainger or Northern Tool, Zoro Tools, etc., roll on glass to ensure straightness - or install in bore with can on and spin to be sure alignment does not "index" to position of spinning rod) Threw one down the bore of a Ruger American Ranch Rifle in 300 BLK. Saved a future baffle strike and potential accuracy issues. Eye-balling it it looked OK, not bad. But not perfect. Checked with rod. Was later confirmed to have 8-9 1000'ths runout. Factory Threads were bad. Joe . 008-.009 |
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I check all my guns with it but I mainly bought it for my Tavor and Scar17s that doesn't have a shoulder. https://www.kbacustom.com/our-products/firearm-accessories.html |
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I got the alignment gauge and all 3 of my rifles "pass" the alignment check. two of my rifles have had the barrels cut and re-threaded. the third one is a colt 6920 with factory threads. all of them lined-up right in the middle. i used the $15 one bigwaylon posted. the only difference in that one and the geissele one seems to be the finish. the geissele rod must have an anti-corrosion coating over the steel. the one i got has instructions to keep it oiled to prevent rust. $15 not too much for peace-of-mind. thanks for all of the input. |
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