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Posted: 4/21/2009 5:00:09 PM EDT
| Mine came in Saturday,thank you FedEx.I cant mount it right now ,getting new carpet and I'll have to move my bench.I did put the mount on and set it on the bench to find the right spot.While checking it out I noticed th "tool plate "was kinda loose.Is this normal?Seems like the dies an such shouldn't move ,at all. |
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Some people like the play in the press.
Personally I don't. I use these and float the dies with o-rings. |
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I have tried loading 9mm, 45 ACP, and 223 both ways.
I actually find that if you set the dies with all stations fully loaded with the ram all the way up then you get relatively accurate loading. The issue is when you are at the beginning and end of a run and the stations are not fully populated. Since I use my 650 to prep 223 cases, prime, seat, and crimp sometimes at different times I got some variance. Using the toolhead clamp set stopped that. Using an o-ring on the deprimer/resizer, seater, and even the crimp die gives the dies enough play if the case or round is slightly misallgned but also helps with concentricity when resizing and seating. To each his own. |
| Yep, I just set mine up with the clamp kit on my case prep tool head. I have the 1200 trimmer and the clamp kit removed the variation I was getting pre-install. I haven't set up my loading tool head yet as I still have several thousand .223 cases to process. The clamp kit was well worth it IMHO. I also picked up the micrometer powder measure they sell, can't comment on it yet. |
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Some people like the play in the press. Personally I don't. I use these and float the dies with o-rings. How does that kit work? I assume from the picture that you replace the toolhead pins with screws, and you tap the toolheads, then you screw the toolhead's tight to the press? -Masta |
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Some people like the play in the press. Personally I don't. I use these and float the dies with o-rings. How does that kit work? I assume from the picture that you replace the toolhead pins with screws, and you tap the toolheads, then you screw the toolhead's tight to the press? -Masta The play is there for a reason (call Dillon to confirm), and does NOT affect the final product. This is a ridiculous solution to a nonexistent problem. (respect to Col. Cooper) |
I upgraded from the 550 to the 650 with all the bells and whiles.
Now I am waiting for the brown man, Should be here Friday, but I am hopping for today 
But back on topic what does floating the dies mean? How is it done? Why is it done? And should I be doing it? Thanks |
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I upgraded from the 550 to the 650 with all the bells and whiles.
Now I am waiting for the brown man, Should be here Friday, but I am hopping for today
But back on topic what does floating the dies mean? How is it done? Why is it done? And should I be doing it? Thanks They are talking about the slop in the toolhead. It in no way affects the reloaded ammo.
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I upgraded from the 550 to the 650 with all the bells and whiles.
Now I am waiting for the brown man, Should be here Friday, but I am hopping for today
But back on topic what does floating the dies mean? How is it done? Why is it done? And should I be doing it? Thanks They are talking about the slop in the toolhead. It in no way affects the reloaded ammo. I've had my XL650 for a relatively short time, but I figured that the play in the toolhead lets the dies center themselves over brass. |
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I upgraded from the 550 to the 650 with all the bells and whiles.
Now I am waiting for the brown man, Should be here Friday, but I am hopping for today
But back on topic what does floating the dies mean? How is it done? Why is it done? And should I be doing it? Thanks They are talking about the slop in the toolhead. It in no way affects the reloaded ammo. I've had my XL650 for a relatively short time, but I figured that the play in the toolhead lets the dies center themselves over brass. Winner. Unless a person raised the ram all the way, and had cases in the dies, any misalignment in the static state(ram lowered, no case engagement with the dies), will remain, instead of being eliminated, when the "lock down" kit is used. |
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Like I said, if you don't think you need them, don't buy them.
Floating the dies is using an o-ring between the lockring and the shell plate. You can do it on any press. Again it is something some people do but it is not necessary. Glen Zediker actually uses o-rings as well. |
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