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Posted: 10/12/2010 8:49:15 AM EDT
| I would like too hear from people that have used the 77gr Nosler and Berger bullets for reloading. I am using Sierra 77 gr MK now. How do the compare to the 77 grSMK |
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I switched from 77 SMKs to Nosler 77s due to price. I did not notice any changes in my dope when shooting in NRA HP matches. Same load. MY Load is 24.1 RL 15, LC cases, Rem 7.5 primers. I use them @ 200, 300 and occasionally 600 yards. Velocity is around 2700 fps.
I must say that the Noslers are prettier with better packaging and bling - all for a cheaper price. |
| Thanks for the info. I just got done weighting some SMKs and very few came out to 77 grs. They were mostly under. I also weighted some 75 gr Hornady and most of them were right on the money, but when they were off, they were off quite abit. Has anyone weighted the nosler to see how consistant the weight of the bullet is. |
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I shoot the 77 Noslers with 22.5 gr of IMR 4895, and a CCI 400 primer in my RRA NM 1:8. They seem to give me just a little bit tighter groups than the Sierras. Not much, I'm probably talking 0.15" at 100 yards. I think this load is a bit on the slow side, as the fired cases seem to be just a tad on the sooty side. I might up the powder a bit and see what happens. It did give me a 91-2x in the President's match at Perry this year, which was my first time at 600 yards, so I can't complain too much about it.
One thing I did notice when seating the bullet - there was definitely more variation in OAL than with the Sierras. It seems like the Noslers varied by .015" in OAL, where the Sierras were about .007". It made it a bit frustrating, as I was shooting for an OAL of 2.255", and ever so often I'd get a couple up over 2.260". |
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I shoot the 77 Noslers with 22.5 gr of IMR 4895, and a CCI 400 primer in my RRA NM 1:8. They seem to give me just a little bit tighter groups than the Sierras. Not much, I'm probably talking 0.15" at 100 yards. I think this load is a bit on the slow side, as the fired cases seem to be just a tad on the sooty side. I might up the powder a bit and see what happens. It did give me a 91-2x in the President's match at Perry this year, which was my first time at 600 yards, so I can't complain too much about it. One thing I did notice when seating the bullet - there was definitely more variation in OAL than with the Sierras. It seems like the Noslers varied by .015" in OAL, where the Sierras were about .007". It made it a bit frustrating, as I was shooting for an OAL of 2.255", and ever so often I'd get a couple up over 2.260". What are you using to measure the OCL with? I use a hornady comparator and it measures the OCL really great. I also use a small base full length sizer die by Redding ( I know some people don't like the small base dies) and Forster Match Bullet seater. Made a big difference in feeding and OCL. |
| I'm measuring OAL with calipers, just to make sure it's below mag length. If it measures 2.255", I leave it alone. If it's 2.263", I bump it down a little bit. I picked up the basic Hornady comparitor set to start loading 80's, just haven't gotten around to it yet. |
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I shoot the 77 Noslers with 22.5 gr of IMR 4895, and a CCI 400 primer in my RRA NM 1:8. They seem to give me just a little bit tighter groups than the Sierras. Not much, I'm probably talking 0.15" at 100 yards. I think this load is a bit on the slow side, as the fired cases seem to be just a tad on the sooty side. I might up the powder a bit and see what happens. It did give me a 91-2x in the President's match at Perry this year, which was my first time at 600 yards, so I can't complain too much about it. One thing I did notice when seating the bullet - there was definitely more variation in OAL than with the Sierras. It seems like the Noslers varied by .015" in OAL, where the Sierras were about .007". It made it a bit frustrating, as I was shooting for an OAL of 2.255", and ever so often I'd get a couple up over 2.260". I tried 22.5 H4895 (not IMR4895) and with the 77 Noslers and was blowing primers big time, went back to 21.0 and it shoots real good, don't know the speed though (probably a bit slow) |
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I would like too hear from people that have used the 77gr Nosler and Berger bullets for reloading. I am using Sierra 77 gr MK now. How do the compare to the 77 grSMK From what I can tell, they shoot as good, they just cost less. One thing I noticed was with an open box of them on the bench for a few days, they turn a more copper color as the air gets to them. Never noticed this with SMK's. |
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Thanks for the info. I just got done weighting some SMKs and very few came out to 77 grs. They were mostly under. I also weighted some 75 gr Hornady and most of them were right on the money, but when they were off, they were off quite abit. Has anyone weighted the nosler to see how consistant the weight of the bullet is. strange, when I weigh them, they are ALL 76.9 or 77.0, different scales read different things I guess. |
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when I first started using 77 Noslers about 5 years ago the distance of the olgive to the case rim was 50 thousands longer than it is now from my last,recent batch of 77 Noslers. This means that the Noslers have to be seated 50 thousands shorter than the older batches(measured with Sinclair Nut and caliper) The result is the bullet has to jump 50 thousands more to engage the lands resulting in much less accuracy 
Load to 2.250 to 2.255 oal which is close to magazine functioning in my rifle. Now I shoot 77 match kings and they don't really care is what the oal is,they shoot great 
There is more but wife is calling me for supper.... Later John |
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To reliablty shoot the heavy bullets,especially 77 nosler or MK a 1x8 or 1x7 will be needed.
75 gr hornady will shoot in most 1x9 twist barrels. Now I have accurately shot my 1x9 twist with 75 gr and 77 Nosler with no problems in the spring and summer at an altitiude 2000 ft. Bring the temperature down to 10 to 20 degree winter the 75 gr bullets will open up the groups and the 77 gr bullets will give very erratic groups. A lot of 1x9 are really 1x8.8 inch or much less than 1x9 even though the barrel is marked 1x9 With a 1x9 it is a hit or miss with the 77 gr bullets,most barrels will shoot the 75 gr Hornady due to the profile of the bullet.Atomospheric pressure and temperature will affect the performance in 1x9 and heavy bullets. Later John |
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I would like too hear from people that have used the 77gr Nosler and Berger bullets for reloading. I am using Sierra 77 gr MK now. How do the compare to the 77 grSMK This has gotten off track somewhat They compare very well Buy a box (100 at least to decide on your own) Load them shoot them report back to us on your opinion Man this stuff is easy, all it needs is a bit of trial and error |
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I've been shooting Nosler 77s for 200 yard reduced matches this year, with TAC and Wolf 223 primers and they are capable of cleaning the targets. I use Sierra 77s with N140 and BR4s at full course matches for 200 and 300 and they clean the targets as well.
The loads do not interchange between bullet brands in my NM chamber, but I am sure I could come up with a load for the Noslers that could match my Sierras. Thanks for this thread: Found Nosler 77s on clearance on Midway today and bought 4 more boxes of $138.92 per 1,000 and burned a hole in my CC
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Going shooting in the morning loaded some ammo up with Tac and IMR 8208 XBR. Loaded 77 SMK and 77 Nosler at different CL, OCL and powder weights. Will shoot from 100 yds to 500 yds with this riflle a Leupold 2.5X8X39 Mark 4 scope and from a bench rest set up and a douglas match rade barrel and Chip McCormick match trigger. I think they will work out great
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I switched from 77 SMKs to Nosler 77s due to price. I did not notice any changes in my dope when shooting in NRA HP matches. Same load. MY Load is 24.1 RL 15, LC cases, Rem 7.5 primers. I use them @ 200, 300 and occasionally 600 yards. Velocity is around 2700 fps. I must say that the Noslers are prettier with better packaging and bling - all for a cheaper price. My experience has been similar to Renn’s. I switched from 77gr SMK to Nosler Custom 77gr bullets without changing my recipe and had really good results. My pet load is similar too using RL15 powder and LC brass. I started off using CCI BR4 primers but now use Rem 7.5s due to availability at the time I ordered. The Noslers are indeed good bullets I miss the sales they used to have on them. |
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