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2/9/2012 4:09:29 AM EDT
I've got an AAC 762sdn-6
(I haven't actually taken possession of it yet still waiting on the ATF) but I took my AR with me to my dealer and test fitted it and I hated the way it made my AR balance.  I didn't buy it for the AR anyways so it's no big deal but at the time I bought it I thought it would be cool that I could use it on a 30cal and also use it on my AR but like I said no bigie.

So now I want to get a smaller and lighter can for my 16" AR.  Cost is not an issue a few hundred dollars is not that big of a deal to me when you consider that this is a lifetime purchase.  Durability and lightweight are a big deal to me though.
At first I was leaning towards the AAC but after doing some more research it seems like more of the tier 1 guys or secret squirrel guys or whatever you want to call them run the Surefire cans so now I'm leaning more towards the SF Mini
So I figured I would post this and ask you guys which one do you prefer and why
2/9/2012 12:44:32 PM EDT
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I was considering one of those as well and decided on the surefire, for one i have surefire brakes on 2 of my ar's already so i would save the extra cost of the surefire, and the surefire has been in mil/leo roles for there durability and great warranty, and have better POI shift
2/9/2012 1:12:19 PM EDT
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just a thought, i am looking for a jack of all trades 30 cal can, i would like to use it on my 556 guns in addition to my LMT mws, and my 300WM bolt gun, i was really looking at the sdn-6 and the surefire mini 762, and the gemtech quicksand,

looked at the specs and noticed the sdn-6 isnt rated for 300 win mag, gave them a call and they stated thats correct and if i was interested in shooting 300win mag that the only can availible was their 300 can. considering that both gemtech and surefire cans, as in all of them, are rated for 300WM, i am most likly going grab one of those two eventually

seriously, AAC cans comand a premium and cant handle 300WM...I think ill pass on the AAC
2/9/2012 1:15:44 PM EDT
[#3]
I think surefire has a better mount.
2/10/2012 2:38:00 AM EDT
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Does Major Malfunction sells SF cans?
2/10/2012 1:35:00 PM EDT
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Go with an Ops Inc M4M. They are at least priced like a mini can. I know you said money was not an object, but why pay more than $1K for a suppressor that is only capable of single digit decibel reduction?
2/10/2012 3:38:40 PM EDT
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Go with an Ops Inc M4M. They are at least priced like a mini can. I know you said money was not an object, but why pay more than $1K for a suppressor that is only capable of single digit decibel reduction?


I'm fairly certain that both the Surefire and AAC mini's are in the 20+ db sound reduction range.
2/10/2012 4:25:09 PM EDT
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Go with an Ops Inc M4M. They are at least priced like a mini can. I know you said money was not an object, but why pay more than $1K for a suppressor that is only capable of single digit decibel reduction?


I'm fairly certain that both the Surefire and AAC mini's are in the 20+ db sound reduction range.


Single digit was an exaggeration However, AAC advertises 22. Even if they did actually achieve that level of reduction under the best of conditions I doubt the average host weapon and ammunition will see better then 20.
2/10/2012 6:04:13 PM EDT
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Go with an Ops Inc M4M. They are at least priced like a mini can. I know you said money was not an object, but why pay more than $1K for a suppressor that is only capable of single digit decibel reduction?


I'm fairly certain that both the Surefire and AAC mini's are in the 20+ db sound reduction range.


Single digit was an exaggeration However, AAC advertises 22. Even if they did actually achieve that level of reduction under the best of conditions I doubt the average host weapon and ammunition will see better then 20.


So...they still accomplish what they set out to?  That is to tame the blast/concussion of the host weapon?

Intriguing...
2/10/2012 11:37:11 PM EDT
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Does Major Malfunction sells SF cans?


Yes he does.  And with good prices too.
2/11/2012 2:51:19 AM EDT
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Go with an Ops Inc M4M. They are at least priced like a mini can. I know you said money was not an object, but why pay more than $1K for a suppressor that is only capable of single digit decibel reduction?


I'm fairly certain that both the Surefire and AAC mini's are in the 20+ db sound reduction range.


Single digit was an exaggeration However, AAC advertises 22. Even if they did actually achieve that level of reduction under the best of conditions I doubt the average host weapon and ammunition will see better then 20.


So...they still accomplish what they set out to?  That is to tame the blast/concussion of the host weapon?

Intriguing...


Exactly; and why pay $1,000 for that when you could have the same, if not better amount of suppression, with a much better mounting system for $600. I know the OP said that money was no object, but that just does not make any sense.
2/11/2012 6:46:50 AM EDT
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Go with an Ops Inc M4M. They are at least priced like a mini can. I know you said money was not an object, but why pay more than $1K for a suppressor that is only capable of single digit decibel reduction?


I'm fairly certain that both the Surefire and AAC mini's are in the 20+ db sound reduction range.


Single digit was an exaggeration However, AAC advertises 22. Even if they did actually achieve that level of reduction under the best of conditions I doubt the average host weapon and ammunition will see better then 20.


So...they still accomplish what they set out to?  That is to tame the blast/concussion of the host weapon?

Intriguing...


Exactly; and why pay $1,000 for that when you could have the same, if not better amount of suppression, with a much better mounting system for $600. I know the OP said that money was no object, but that just does not make any sense.


MSRP of the Mini-4 is $900, which means you should be able to pick it up for about $750 from Major and others. This thread is useless if it's full of exaggerations.
2/11/2012 8:03:58 PM EDT
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I don’t care about a couple hundred dollars what I care about is the weight and overall length of the can that will mount on my 16" rifle







I built this gun with lightweight and quick handling in mind.  At the time I never thought that I would get into suppressors because I didn't want to have to deal with the ATF and all their bullshit.  Anyways that was a few years ago and now that I got the SDN-6 I figure that I might as well get a can for my AR as well.  If the SHTF this is the gun I would be reaching for and I would like to keep it as light as possible without having my ear drums explode if I ever have to shoot it.





Edit:
Another question about SF cans.
Do they use Inconel?
Also are they fully welded like the AAC?  are the AAC Mini4's fully welded?





2/12/2012 3:09:56 AM EDT
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Go with an Ops Inc M4M. They are at least priced like a mini can. I know you said money was not an object, but why pay more than $1K for a suppressor that is only capable of single digit decibel reduction?


I'm fairly certain that both the Surefire and AAC mini's are in the 20+ db sound reduction range.


Single digit was an exaggeration However, AAC advertises 22. Even if they did actually achieve that level of reduction under the best of conditions I doubt the average host weapon and ammunition will see better then 20.


So...they still accomplish what they set out to?  That is to tame the blast/concussion of the host weapon?

Intriguing...


Exactly; and why pay $1,000 for that when you could have the same, if not better amount of suppression, with a much better mounting system for $600. I know the OP said that money was no object, but that just does not make any sense.


MSRP of the Mini-4 is $900, which means you should be able to pick it up for about $750 from Major and others. This thread is useless if it's full of exaggerations.


Don't forget to add the $100 mount. The MSRP of an Ops Inc M4M is $600 with a mount. I was able to pick one up for $450 with a mount.
2/12/2012 2:31:51 PM EDT
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Another question about SF cans.
Do they use Inconel?
Also are they fully welded like the AAC?  are the AAC Mini4's fully welded?



Do yourself a favor and do a Google image search on "AAC vs. Surefire".

The Mini-4 is fully welded inconel, and it's the can I would go with, especially considering you already have an SDN-6.
2/13/2012 9:40:30 AM EDT
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Another question about SF cans.
Do they use Inconel?
Also are they fully welded like the AAC?  are the AAC Mini4's fully welded?



Do yourself a favor and do a Google image search on "AAC vs. Surefire".

The Mini-4 is fully welded inconel, and it's the can I would go with, especially considering you already have an SDN-6.


yes, cause the image of a can that was obviously used, then cut open next to a brand new can should tell him everything  

The mount that the Mini-4 uses is the 51T mount, one that will be phased out eventually since they just released the 91T mount.  I would use a can with the best mounting system.  I own an AAC 762SD.  If it wouldn't cost me so much, I'd sell it and buy a surefire in a second due to the mounting system being substandard.  

OP, both the AAC and the Surfire cans are quality.  If either can has an issue, the maker will step up and take care of you.  I own a lot of surefire products (no cans yet, but my next will be surefire) and all have worked as advertised.  I own an AAC can that suppresses as advertised, but has a substandard mounting system.  I would recommend finding a surefire can and looking at it to see if you want that, or the AAC.  If you are satisfied with what you see, then go with that.
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