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10/22/2006 9:45:05 AM EDT
I have a relatively new Pilot (about 200 rounds through it) and I am wanting to clean it soon.  I realize that there is a million different opinions on what to use, but I was thinking about using some type of chemical, and then scrubbing the internals with a brush like is found in the following link.

http://www.brushescorp.com/index2.htm

What do you think?  
10/22/2006 10:39:33 AM EDT
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I have a relatively new Pilot (about 200 rounds through it) and I am wanting to clean it soon.  I realize that there is a million different opinions on what to use, but I was thinking about using some type of chemical, and then scrubbing the internals with a brush like is found in the following link.

http://www.brushescorp.com/index2.htm

What do you think?  


The brush wouldn't do any more than what is removable by solvents and the soak and pray methods so I doubt a brush would would help you much.  Also, see what the instruction manual says.

10/22/2006 1:01:58 PM EDT
[#2]
#1: Follow whatever the cleaning instructions are in the Technical Manual that came with it.

#2: 200 rounds of use is WAY too early to be cleaning it. You will likely decrease the over all life of the suppressor by cleaning it that often. Every 1K-2K+ rounds is a more realistic cleaning schedule.

Just like a rifle barrel, suppressors can be worn out far sooner by obsessive cleaning than they ever will be just from use alone.

- DH
10/22/2006 2:44:51 PM EDT
[#3]
I have read the directions, and... like others, I have looked for a better way.  I will try Kroil first.

I also understand the merits of not cleaning things.  I have never cleaned my M4-96D even though I've fired several thousand rounds.
10/22/2006 6:17:05 PM EDT
[#4]
Soak in Kroil and flush with water.
10/23/2006 4:12:12 AM EDT
[#5]
I've tried Kroil and it works okay.  I switched to lacquer thinner mostly because I could buy that cheaper and it seemed to work the same.  Flush with water and blow out with a air compressor.  Hope this helps.

Mark
10/23/2006 6:04:18 AM EDT
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I use Slip 2000 carbon cutter and shake the can (plugged with corks and in a zip lock bag) every few min while cleaning the firearm or watching TV.  Wash the stuff out after 2 hours or so then bake in over at 250 for an hour or so to drive out the water.  

I am thinking of trying Kroil over night and then the Carbon Cutter.  I have emailed Gem Tech, as this is an Outback II, for the type of AL. they use (ask for sample of the material but they said no) I forget the AL type but there are 3 of them in the Outback II.  I will try to get some of this AL and test some cleaners on them and see what harms the AL and what doesnt...

10/23/2006 10:04:44 AM EDT
[#7]
+1 the slipp 2000. I let mine set then wash it out and dry as much as possible spray some wd-40 to get  water out and drane again. A day later i'll tap the can on my work bench gently not to scratch the finish and watch the chunks of stuff come out.
10/23/2006 10:29:22 AM EDT
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+1 the slipp 2000. I let mine set then wash it out and dry as much as possible spray some wd-40 to get  water out and drane again. A day later i'll tap the can on my work bench gently not to scratch the finish and watch the chunks of stuff come out.


I just tried some of that. I wasn't all that impressed with it. I let an LCD sit in there for 4 hours in my ultrasonic, there was still a bunch of carbon in the shaft and inside the housing itself.  It also says right on the bottle to be careful with anodized aluminum.
10/23/2006 1:59:07 PM EDT
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I have a relatively new Pilot (about 200 rounds through it) and I am wanting to clean it soon

Why?  
10/23/2006 2:09:15 PM EDT
[#10]
prolly pretty proud of his new toy
10/23/2006 2:23:40 PM EDT
[#11]
Kroil doesn't work too bad, but it's a bit pricey. I found a gallon jug of Marvel Mystery oil, and it worked just about as good. And about half the price.
10/23/2006 2:32:12 PM EDT
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prolly pretty proud of his new toy


Actually, I figured if I stayed on top of it early then I could keep the buildup down.
10/23/2006 2:53:32 PM EDT
[#13]
Nothing wrong with that. I like my toys clean too.
10/23/2006 3:27:35 PM EDT
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prolly pretty proud of his new toy


Actually, I figured if I stayed on top of it early then I could keep the buildup down.

i wasnt bashing you just like when you get a new car you dont want it messed up in any way shape or form
10/23/2006 3:29:30 PM EDT
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prolly pretty proud of his new toy


Actually, I figured if I stayed on top of it early then I could keep the buildup down.

i wasnt bashing you just like when you get a new car you dont want it messed up in any way shape or form


No problem, I didn't take it as bashing at all.
10/23/2006 7:50:26 PM EDT
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  I switched to lacquer thinner mostly because I could buy that cheaper and it seemed to work the same.   Mark


  Lacquer thinner  or mineral spirits????   Just checking..   thanks!!!  How about the ole 50/50 wtih ATF??   Any ATF???

       Thanks to all
10/24/2006 3:34:22 AM EDT
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  I switched to lacquer thinner mostly because I could buy that cheaper and it seemed to work the same.   Mark


  Lacquer thinner  or mineral spirits????   Just checking..   thanks!!!  How about the ole 50/50 wtih ATF??   Any ATF???

       Thanks to all


I'm using lacquer thinner, flush with water and blow out with an air hose.  I bought some PVC pipe and made tubes to soak the cans for a day or three.    
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