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12/10/2014 12:44:37 AM EDT
Trying to decide what I want to do for a suppressor.

Just a little background info, I coach and teach and my wife doesn't work so money is pretty tight so I don't ever get to spend much extra money on firearms.

My wife said I could purchase a suppressor after christmas and I finally have almost the full amount saved up for it.

Being that this will be my first one, I have been looking at the Liberty Mystic X just because it looks like a do all can and I can go straight to shooting suppressed on every caliber I own. 9mm, 223, 300 blk, and 22lr

Now, I really wanted to get a 762 can like the Specwar or the YHM Phantom M2 QD or maybe even wait until the Dead Air silencers become available. Having said that I don't know if I will be able to purchase a 22lr suppressor anytime soon so should I just buy the Mystic X and buy mounts for all of my guns or get a dedicated rifle suppressor and then get a 22lr and pistol can later?


What say ye??
12/10/2014 1:01:46 AM EDT
[#1]
Why are you looking for a 762 can? The Mystic seems to fill the needs you specify so I'm just trying to get an understanding of why you feel you would benefit from one?


12/10/2014 1:06:26 AM EDT
[#2]
Well I sold my 270 a while back but I will be getting a deer rifle again one day for certain. I would like to be able to suppress it as well. Will most likely be a 308 or possibly an oddball caliber like 6.5 creedmor or 280 remington.
12/10/2014 1:09:36 AM EDT
[#3]
I guess my original question was should I even try to buy a do all can or just go ahead and plan to get 2-3 separate cans? Is there any reason that I should get a 7.62 can for the 300 blk that might have better suppression? Or will there even be a discernible difference between let's say the Specwar vs Mystic X on 300 blk?
12/10/2014 1:16:48 AM EDT
[#4]
Are you going to shoot lead or jacketed 300 blk?



You're in a suppressor addicts forum so most people are going to recommend dedicated rimfie, centerfire handgun and centerfire rifle suppressors.




For 7.62, any reason why the Harvester wouldn't work?
12/10/2014 1:27:38 AM EDT
[#5]
It would all be jacketed 300 blk.

I've looked at the harvester but I would like to stay away from direct thread suppressors. I may just be misinformed but I want to do everything possible to minimize chances of a baffle strike and from what i understand a direct thread suppressor is more likely to come loose and cause a baffle strike.

I'm definitely not an expert on this stuff as I am just now wanting to purchase one but I have done quite a bit of reading. Just can't quite decide what I want.
12/10/2014 5:58:41 AM EDT
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It would all be jacketed 300 blk.

I've looked at the harvester but I would like to stay away from direct thread suppressors. I may just be misinformed but I want to do everything possible to minimize chances of a baffle strike and from what i understand a direct thread suppressor is more likely to come loose and cause a baffle strike.

I'm definitely not an expert on this stuff as I am just now wanting to purchase one but I have done quite a bit of reading. Just can't quite decide what I want.
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I was in the same boat, and I still ended up getting five suppressors.  However, now with the benefit of hindsight, I think I could probably live with just one if I absolutely had to.

Let me see if I can explain myself a bit.  You can use an Octane 9, Liberty Mystic, or a TiRant 9 for just about everything.  That would cover you for .22LR, 9mm, and subsonic 300 blk.  I've got an Octane 9, and it would allow me to suppress pretty much everything except a hypersonic rifle round.

But I've found that the really great benefit of a suppressor is being able to shoot without hearing protection.  That's tough for me to do if I'm shooting a suppressed 5.56, .308, or even 300 blk when those rounds aren't subsonic.  They are still going to be pretty loud.

If you're trying to do just one suppressor, I'd probably get one of the 9mm cans that are rated for subsonic 300 blk and that will cover you for most things.  Once you have a suppressor, and you shoot some .22LR through it, you might find that's what you end up doing at the range most of the time anyway.  That's what happened to me.  My dedicated 5.56 rarely gets used.  The Octane 9 always goes to the range.

If you're on a budget, you could get a TiRant pretty cheap right now if you play your cards right.  I like the Octane 9 a little better, but you just can't beat the prices of the AAC cans right now.  I guess they are blowing them out.

I just think the .30 cal can would offer less utility than the 9mm can.  And after all, if you're going to spend that kind of money you should be able to enjoy it as much as possible, not just during deer season (or whenever you shoot your .270).

Just my humble opinion, which is worth what you paid for it: nothin'.  

In Arfcom tradition (get both), if you can swing two cans, consider one of those Innovative Arms 7.62 cans and a TiRant or something, you'll meet all of your stated goals for the least financial impact.

Innovative Arms Deception is a good 7.62 can and isn't as expensive as many of the other options.  But I haven't priced an AAC SDN-6 so...
http://www.quietriotfirearms.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DEC762FDE
12/10/2014 6:37:28 AM EDT
[#7]
Just my humble opinion:  If I were in your situation and were planning on shooting the calibers you list I would definitely go with the MysticX.  I have a Mystic (pre-X) and love it.  You can shoot 223/5.56 full power loads through it as long as it is a 16 inch barrel and you practice slow rates of fire (no mag dumps)  Go to Liberty's web site and just look at all the calibers they rate the MysticX for.  Another plus for the Mystic is the ability to take it down for cleaning.  A definite plus if you shoot 22lr or any cast bullets in it.  I shoot almost all cast lead through mine in 300blk, 9mm, 357Maximum, and some 22lr( I also have a dedicated 22 can, so not too much 22lr though my Mystic)  It is a direct thread can, but so far I have not experienced any trouble with mine getting loose while shooting.  I do check it every few rounds, but have never had to retighten it.

The Liberty folks are Great on customer service and very easy to work with.

Get the Mystic now and then start saving your pennies for either a dedicated 22lr can and/or a can that can handle full house rifle loads.
12/10/2014 8:39:33 AM EDT
[#8]
Like others have said the Mystic X is a great do it all can.  Direct thread on cans can come loose but after a few rounds just recheck tightness.  I recently bought a saker 762 and Harvester for SBR .300blk to .308 bolt.  I got the harvester because I didn't want a 20oz peice of metal at the end of a precision rifle.  

For what its worth my next can will be the Mystic X because i want a lighter can for the SBR .300blk and 9mm pistol.
12/10/2014 8:55:42 AM EDT
[#9]
The just one can theory is a waste of time, you'll buy more. I started out that way , it slowly turns into just one more, then another.
12/10/2014 9:23:54 AM EDT
[#10]
Very good information guys. Maybe I need to spend more time on here. I always get good advice. I think I will end up getting a mystic x and just go from there.
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