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12/15/2009 6:08:32 PM EDT
My friend bought a bunch of this powder for his brother to use to reload .223 for him.  He bought 4 pounds but will only need one for the amount that his brother is going to reload for him, so I thought that I would buy some off of him.

I have reloaded pistol, but am just getting the components together to reload .223 for the first time, so I am in the heavy research phase.  I have checked with the Alliant site for their recipes and they are specific to bullet brand, primer brand, and brass brand.  

Do i need to stick with these specifics if I use this powder?  I have mostly LC and Winchester brass, and have Winchester SR primers.  None of these things are part of their recipes.

Should I just tell my buddy that I am not going to buy that particular powder?  

Also, I am planning to reload mostly for plinking ammo for my AR with a 16" barrel, and am not as concerned with benchrest accuracy.

Thanks for any advice.
12/15/2009 6:15:57 PM EDT
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My friend bought a bunch of this powder for his brother to use to reload .223 for him.  He bought 4 pounds but will only need one for the amount that his brother is going to reload for him, so I thought that I would buy some off of him.

I have reloaded pistol, but am just getting the components together to reload .223 for the first time, so I am in the heavy research phase.  I have checked with the Alliant site for their recipes and they are specific to bullet brand, primer brand, and brass brand.  

Do i need to stick with these specifics if I use this powder?  I have mostly LC and Winchester brass, and have Winchester SR primers.  None of these things are part of their recipes.

Should I just tell my buddy that I am not going to buy that particular powder?  

Also, I am planning to reload mostly for plinking ammo for my AR with a 16" barrel, and am not as concerned with benchrest accuracy.

Thanks for any advice.


You will be fine if you begin loading with the "start" load and work up watching for pressure signs.

Get some 55 gr FMJBT's, if you haven't bought bullets yet.
12/15/2009 8:10:12 PM EDT
[#2]
I have checked with the Alliant site for their recipes and they are specific to bullet brand, primer brand, and brass brand.



All load manuals will list Bullet brand/type, primer, and brass.  They may also list rifle/test barrel, barrel length , COAL, pressure etc.  It's important to understand that published load data is NOT a RECIPE.  It is only a set of guidelines, they are only listing what components they used.  It is impossible to follow load data to the letter(recipe).  To many variables.  For one to treat load data as an absolute(recipe), one would have to have the exact same powder, primer, brass and bullet.  Not just the same brand, but the exact same components and lot numbers.  One would also have to test their loads in the exact same environment, weather, altitude etc.   Not to mention the largest component factor of all, the firearm.  

 So, what does this all mean?  It means, gather as much data as you can for your choice of bullet weight and powder, then follow the number one rule of safe handloading "Start Low and Work Up, Looking for Signs of High Pressure".  If load data was as simple as a recipe, there would be no need for a "Start" load..  We could just list a recipe that would work with all lot numbers, in all weather conditions, in every firearm.  But then that would take all the fun out of handloading.
12/16/2009 2:46:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the replies. I am glad that it doesn't have to be that exact.  
I have only reloaded .40 so far and have been doing the same load the entire time and not messed with other powders.

I look forward to starting with the .223. Almost there, just have a few more components to get.
12/16/2009 3:13:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Reloder 10X is a fast powder, best suited for .223 when loading bullets that weigh 55 grains or lighter. You should be able to produce really nice groups using it with 52 or 53 grain match bullets.
12/16/2009 4:22:04 PM EDT
[#5]
10X is THE powder for the 6.8SPC, no other powder comes close in velocity when using 100+ gr bullets and RE7 is best for 85-90 gr bullets for accuracy and velocity, next in line is H322 which is very accurate but a little less speed than the 10X.

As far as .223 goes it will do very good up to 55- 60 gr bullets as does H322, but after that things will start dropping off in both accuracy and velocity.
12/16/2009 4:55:21 PM EDT
[#6]
its a great powder for 55gn in .223, just get a decent primer.
Its kinda dirty with wolf magnum primers.
12/16/2009 4:59:18 PM EDT
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Quoted:
its a great powder for 55gn in .223, just get a decent primer.
Its kinda dirty with wolf magnum primers.


I haven't used 10X for .223 but it's the cleanest burning powder I have ever used when loaded in 6.8SPC, I do use CCI #41 primers which are Mag primers if that really makes any difference.
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