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10/24/2007 5:18:06 PM EDT
Here is the link to the whole review; excerpts are listed below


From Lawdawg

...As for the particulars on the rifle, it's a 11/06 born SAI Loaded w/the med hvy factory barrell. She shot great with irons and the Troy MCS brought the best out in her. I have had bolt guns that doesn't shoot as well as this rig :o! Gotta love it! Looking forward to strechin' her legs a bit at longer ranges and will keep you all posted after I get some more "trigger time".

lawdawg out!



...The build turned out far better than I could've hoped for and here she is.





Mods include the Troy MCS (with many thanks to Tony over at Law483 Interprises), Hines Tactical grip, SEI DC Vortex, Versa Pod pictanny rail adapter and 1T bipod, A2 buttstock and buffer tube, Burris Extreme Tactical rings and BSA 6x24x44 mildot side focus w/Butler Creek covers.

The end result, sub moa five shot group @ 100 yards. Shot prone from bipod, ammo used was Federal 168 GMM. Off center group was first three round string before "dialing in". Like I said, couldn't be happier and thanks to all that helped me out!


10/24/2007 5:29:11 PM EDT
[#1]
It's an Amazing Tacticool Precision Stock

BTW, after trying out a few different butt stocks on the TROY MCS and feel the basic A2 is the best. YRMV
10/24/2007 10:08:55 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
It's an Amazing Tacticool Precision Stock

BTW, after trying out a few different butt stocks on the TROY MCS and feel the basic A2 is the best. YRMV


Did you try a A1? I just want more of your input. I like your rig but I am still scared to disfigure one of my rifles, you know, removing the sights, mainly. You also may need to post a new recent pic. of your rifle. Por favor. I know your rifle make M1Aers drool.
10/25/2007 1:49:52 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's an Amazing Tacticool Precision Stock

BTW, after trying out a few different butt stocks on the TROY MCS and feel the basic A2 is the best. YRMV


Did you try a A1? I just want more of your input. I like your rig but I am still scared to disfigure one of my rifles, you know, removing the sights, mainly.
You also may need to post a new recent pic. of your rifle. Por favor. I know your rifle make M1Aers drool.


I am going to try the A1 style from Calvary Arms soon.
Don't be scared - none of the disfigurement is permanent.
My MK14SEI Mod 1 action has been in an RRM, SAGE and TROY.

Pictures of the different configurations I have had. The FDE is current.











10/28/2007 7:41:24 PM EDT
[#4]
The only thing that bugs me, and this is totally just visual observation, is the gap behind the TG.  I see some use the Tango Down grip and some use the MagPul but the gap is still there.  

Does your finger gets garfed up in the gap?  The gap on a AR platform is way smaller and alot of people complain about the gap.  I look at the gap on PG'd M14's is huge...I could fit my whole finger in there.

Now to my actual point...why not take a Miad with the full tg strap built in and cut the tg strap flush to the M14 TG?  Is it too low, would it look stoopid?  I would much rather remove the one grip screw to have to strip my rifle, than have the gap.  I'm really ready to sell off all my other inferior battle rifles to change over to an all m14 battle rifle home.  I rebuilt a Poly and now I want another.  The Troy stock looks awesome,  I'm just not real fond of the gap.  H2O help me decide!!
10/28/2007 8:18:26 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
The only thing that bugs me, and this is totally just visual observation, is the gap behind the TG.  I see some use the Tango Down grip and some use the MagPul but the gap is still there.  

Does your finger gets garfed up in the gap?  The gap on a AR platform is way smaller and alot of people complain about the gap.  I look at the gap on PG'd M14's is huge...I could fit my whole finger in there.

Now to my actual point...why not take a Miad with the full tg strap built in and cut the tg strap flush to the M14 TG?  Is it too low, would it look stoopid?  I would much rather remove the one grip screw to have to strip my rifle, than have the gap.  I'm really ready to sell off all my other inferior battle rifles to change over to an all m14 battle rifle home.  I rebuilt a Poly and now I want another.  The Troy stock looks awesome,  I'm just not real fond of the gap.  H2O help me decide!!


There needs to be a slight gap in order for the TG to hinge open for field stripping.  In my original design I called for a small "gapper" built into the AR grip interface contoured to fill this area without interfering with the TG, but it did not make it to production.  I do not notice the gap; unlike the AR there is nothing there to rub the finger on.
10/28/2007 8:28:01 PM EDT
[#6]
I would recommend the Troy MCS.  Thanks Law for the fast delivery and excellent service.  The installation is easy.  I am a complete Noobie to the M1A and disassembly of the old standard stock to the Troy MCS took me about an hour total.

This thing looks mean and I just outfitted it with a LaRue Bipod mount, Harris bipod, and Leupy scope.  Pics to follow.


Daryn
10/29/2007 2:47:10 PM EDT
[#7]
Can anyone post pictures of before targets and then after targets?

Does this thing really tighten up the groups that much? If so that is awesome. My loaded M1A is good as it stands, but that target up top is really nice looking.
10/29/2007 5:47:23 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Can anyone post pictures of before targets and then after targets?...


H2O man has plans for just that.
11/7/2007 8:08:44 AM EDT
[#9]
Just a tag to see if H2O man has gotten any closer to getting before and after accuracy reports.

Any other pictures you might have would be cool as well.
11/7/2007 9:01:26 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Just a tag to see if H2O man has gotten any closer to getting before and after accuracy reports.

Any other pictures you might have would be cool as well.


My apologies, but I have been to busy to get any trigger time.
It's always something, I'm currently waiting on an EOTech 4X FTS.

Here is a LINK to my TROY MCS page.
11/7/2007 11:42:06 AM EDT
[#11]
Certainly no need for an apology. I am WELL aware of how hard it is to get trigger time in.

Thanks for the link.
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