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10/8/2008 5:05:59 AM EDT
Guys,

I have a few rounds that I crimped.  I can visibly see the crimp "indentions" at the case mouth around the bullet.

Have I "overcrimped"?  

Should I back the die out so that I cannot see these indentions?

Are these rounds safe to use or should I scrap them?

Blake
10/8/2008 5:25:52 AM EDT
[#1]
that is normal. It is tough to overcrimp with the FCD. I personally rely mostly on neck tension but do very lightly crimp my plinking loads with the FCD. I would just shoot them. If your groups are tight and some what round then it was good to go.
10/8/2008 5:28:34 AM EDT
[#2]
If all else fails--read the directions.  They clearly state to look down from above and cycle the press until the four collet gaps meet.  You have then crimped enough, and have not damaged (ruined) the die by over crimping.  You should see the crimp afterwards.    
10/8/2008 12:40:24 PM EDT
[#3]
I know...I did read the directions...I just couldn't get the splits to close completely.  So I kept adjusting the die in until they closed.  You definitely see the crimp...as in you can see the crimp and where the splits didn't quite touch.  These may be a bit heavy.  I'll go lighter on the next ones.  Range report coming this weekend.  Thanks for the replies.

Blake
10/8/2008 1:24:10 PM EDT
[#4]
Do your bullets have a cannelure?  
10/8/2008 1:59:39 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Do your bullets have a cannelure?  


No.  Barnes TSX.
10/8/2008 2:18:41 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do your bullets have a cannelure?  


No.  Barnes TSX.


Well...that depends on how you seat the bullet.  Although the Driving Bands were not designed as such, they still make an excellent Cannelure.  Barnes recommends this, and if the case mouth lines up with a trough between driving bands on a cartridge with lots of slow powder to burn up, I crimp away.
10/8/2008 4:57:57 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do your bullets have a cannelure?  


No.  Barnes TSX.


That's why you are having trouble getting the collets to touch.  I would strongly recommend not crimping on that bullet.  There's nothing to be gained.  
10/8/2008 5:09:30 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do your bullets have a cannelure?  


No.  Barnes TSX.


That's why you are having trouble getting the collets to touch.  I would strongly recommend not crimping on that bullet.  There's nothing to be gained.  


Actually, it doesn't really want to close around Verminator Bullets either.  Why would you not crimp a TSX?  Thanks for the info.

Blake

ETA - Barnes doesn't recommend a crimp on the TSX, or a very light one on smaller caliber bullets.  Which again begs the question, are these good to go, and in the future either don't crimp or crimp very lightly?  Or should I discard these?  BTW, the bullets are sitting in the case mouth so that I crimped over the larger diameter of the bullet - not the grooves.  Thanks again for any insight.
10/8/2008 5:29:10 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do your bullets have a cannelure?  


No.  Barnes TSX.


That's why you are having trouble getting the collets to touch.  I would strongly recommend not crimping on that bullet.  There's nothing to be gained.  


Actually, it doesn't really want to close around Verminator Bullets either.  Why would you not crimp a TSX?  Thanks for the info.

Blake


If there isn't a cannelure to crimp into then you have to distort the bullet and actually form a cannelure with the FCD.  This is not conducive to good accuracy, and has NOTHING to benefit you.  

I'm thinking you don't realize you don't need a crimp in order for the bullet to be firmly held.  You don't.  
10/8/2008 7:20:08 PM EDT
[#10]
It won't hurt to shoot 'em, but if you significantly deform the bullet, it may have an adverse impact on accuracy. It also could shoot like a champ. YMMV
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