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Posted: 3/15/2012 9:15:12 AM EDT
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If you saw my other post from a few days ago, I couldn't find H335 locally so I picked up some Varget. In looking at loading info in Lymans 49th, the closest thing in .223 is a 55gr jacketed SP. I have some 55gr FMJBT w/c that I picked up from Hi-Tech over a year ago. If I remember correctly, they are pulls.
Manual shows a 25gr start and 27.8 as max (and it's compressed). Is this where I should start with my FMJBT w/c's? What do you guys like to use with Varget? |
| I got ok results with 25 and 26 grain loads using m193 and all types of 55 grain shapes and sizes.You can try and see if there is a sweet spot with it and go from there,I think it is not that bad for 55 grain and of course there are somewhat better options out there;hell I know people who wont stop using 4198 still on the side.Most will always say that varget is just to slow but I say4198 is to fast.I do like h335 and tac though. |
| For those who may not have read my other thread from a few days ago..........I usually use H335 but there is none to be found locally, so I picked up a pound of Varget. As soon as I can find some 335 again I'll get more, but this is what I have for now. I didn't think about TAC at the time though, so maybe I'll try that someday also. |
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Use the "start' load for the 55 gr SP and work up watching for pressure signs. Once you start loading Varget you will see why we say it measures poorly. You will also need a drop tube for the upper loads. i just now finished loading 50 rounds of 55g v-max with 27.5 of varget and did not use a drop tube? was i suppose to? The cases where almost completely full. |
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Use the "start' load for the 55 gr SP and work up watching for pressure signs. Once you start loading Varget you will see why we say it measures poorly. You will also need a drop tube for the upper loads. i just now finished loading 50 rounds of 55g v-max with 27.5 of varget and did not use a drop tube? was i suppose to? The cases where almost completely full. With a 55gr SP 27.5gr is the MAX charge and is compressed according to Hodgdon. I'd be VERY leery about shooting those if you used a CCI #41 or any other magnum primer unless you worked up that load for a specific gun. Generally when Hodgdon says max they mean it. |
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Use the "start' load for the 55 gr SP and work up watching for pressure signs. Once you start loading Varget you will see why we say it measures poorly. You will also need a drop tube for the upper loads. i just now finished loading 50 rounds of 55g v-max with 27.5 of varget and did not use a drop tube? was i suppose to? The cases where almost completely full. With a 55gr SP 27.5gr is the MAX charge and is compressed according to Hodgdon. I'd be VERY leery about shooting those if you used a CCI #41 or any other magnum primer unless you worked up that load for a specific gun. Generally when Hodgdon says max they mean it. during work up i went all the way to 27.8 and dident have any pressure signs. They will be strictly used in a 5.56 AR Leeman 49 shows the max at 27.8 also. I would have went higher but the case is completely full at 27.8 |
| I love Varget.. Yes, it meters like crap in a powder drop, but when I put it in my auto dispenser it works just fine. I agree with it liking the heavy loads but I also found it to work very well with the 55g V/Z-Max bullets too. Right now I am putting it against H322 with my 55g Z-max to see which performs better... The winner will move on to 8lb jugs. |
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Use the "start' load for the 55 gr SP and work up watching for pressure signs. Once you start loading Varget you will see why we say it measures poorly. You will also need a drop tube for the upper loads. i just now finished loading 50 rounds of 55g v-max with 27.5 of varget and did not use a drop tube? was i suppose to? The cases where almost completely full. With a 55gr SP 27.5gr is the MAX charge and is compressed according to Hodgdon. I'd be VERY leery about shooting those if you used a CCI #41 or any other magnum primer unless you worked up that load for a specific gun. Generally when Hodgdon says max they mean it. during work up i went all the way to 27.8 and dident have any pressure signs. They will be strictly used in a 5.56 AR Leeman 49 shows the max at 27.8 also. I would have went higher but the case is completely full at 27.8 I can't get much past 25g of Varget in my bolt gun without seeing pressure signs...my pet load is 24.5g and that is pushing 3250 fps already... I know at 25.5 I have flattened primers. |
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If you saw my other post from a few days ago, I couldn't find H335 locally so I picked up some Varget. In looking at loading info in Lymans 49th, the closest thing in .223 is a 55gr jacketed SP. I have some 55gr FMJBT w/c that I picked up from Hi-Tech over a year ago. If I remember correctly, they are pulls. Manual shows a 25gr start and 27.8 as max (and it's compressed). Is this where I should start with my FMJBT w/c's? What do you guys like to use with Varget? I load 24.9gr on hornady mhpbt/ 25.2 on sierra 69gr mhpbt and 23.7gr on hornady 75gr mhpbt all with varget. very accurate...very consistant, and no signs of over pressure. ben loading those rds for that past 10yrs with that said, imo you can run that pull,d 55gr with 26gr compresed with no worries. i know you mentioned not being able to get h335,which is a bummer because I persnoally wouldnt waist varget on pull,d projectiles |
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Quoted: A drop tube makes it easier to pack the case full of powder.Quoted: Use the "start' load for the 55 gr SP and work up watching for pressure signs. Once you start loading Varget you will see why we say it measures poorly. You will also need a drop tube for the upper loads. I just now finished loading 50 rounds of 55g v-max with 27.5 of Varget and did not use a drop tube? was I suppose to? The cases where almost completely full. Not essential, just makes it easier. |
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