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Posted: 7/17/2024 1:44:02 PM EST
Has anyone bought a Steyr AUG A3 M2 yet?
We have one in house as a reference piece, but I haven't seen a single peep about it by anyone else since it came out. They went back to the old A1 style charging handle, and notched the receiver so it can fold inward just like on an EF88 Austeyr. Beyond that it is pretty much an A3 in how the top rail mounts, and lack of the QD moutn bump. I looked at the QD rail system, but honestly our own AUG Cantilever forend is a lot sleeker without the bulky QD levers for removing the forend (I actually looked at doing that very thing early on in the AUG Cantilever Forend development, but decided against as I thought it was too bulky and snag prone.) Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 1:53:03 PM EST
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Can you post some pics of it?
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Posted: 7/17/2024 2:46:16 PM EST
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I didn’t know they were actually in the US
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2024 3:03:57 PM EST
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I have your rail and though it is nice and sleek I’d most likely eventually burn myself on the gas block. Wish you guys could make a heat shield for that.
How’s the ejection port cover coming along? |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 3:06:28 PM EST
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How's the stock side by side with a COVID era stock? Color and texture wise?
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Posted: 7/17/2024 4:33:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nate762: I have your rail and though it is nice and sleek I’d most likely eventually burn myself on the gas block. Wish you guys could make a heat shield for that. How’s the ejection port cover coming along? Ejection port cover is in prototyping. If things gonwell it will be in the production que in about two weeks. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 4:34:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbstractIdeas: How's the stock side by side with a COVID era stock? Color and texture wise? It looks exactly the same to my eyes. There is no visible way i have seen to tell if a stock might fail, if that is what you are asking. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 11:12:47 PM EST
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I'm waiting for "in the wild" pics to start showing up before I buy the M2 variant. The videos I've seen include that forward railed/M-Lok handguard section but the stock photos I see on websites show nothing like that on the rifle. I love my A3 M1 but would much prefer a version that has the light and laser mounting options of the new handguard. The Steyr USA site doesn't have the M2 listed yet as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure if the handguard is standard with the M2 or just an optional extra.
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Posted: 7/19/2024 6:59:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fordkicksass: I'm waiting for "in the wild" pics to start showing up before I buy the M2 variant. The videos I've seen include that forward railed/M-Lok handguard section but the stock photos I see on websites show nothing like that on the rifle. I love my A3 M1 but would much prefer a version that has the light and laser mounting options of the new handguard. The Steyr USA site doesn't have the M2 listed yet as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure if the handguard is standard with the M2 or just an optional extra. Sounds like it does not come with the rail from what I hear. |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 8:15:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbstractIdeas: Sounds like it does not come with the rail from what I hear. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbstractIdeas: Originally Posted By fordkicksass: I'm waiting for "in the wild" pics to start showing up before I buy the M2 variant. The videos I've seen include that forward railed/M-Lok handguard section but the stock photos I see on websites show nothing like that on the rifle. I love my A3 M1 but would much prefer a version that has the light and laser mounting options of the new handguard. The Steyr USA site doesn't have the M2 listed yet as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure if the handguard is standard with the M2 or just an optional extra. Sounds like it does not come with the rail from what I hear. Correct, Rail is an extra $399 from Steyr and are out of stock. ( I have a new extra if anyone wants it. ) |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2024 9:50:04 AM EST
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just find an A3 from 20 years ago and it's basically that
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AK, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2024 1:29:15 PM EST
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Based on what I'm hearing and seeing I would actually argue that the a3sa guns are higher quality and better quality control than the A3 M2 guns.
Plus you definitely for sure don't have to worry about a stock cracking with an a3sa. |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 2:53:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TSH77769: Based on what I'm hearing and seeing I would actually argue that the a3sa guns are higher quality and better quality control than the A3 M2 guns. Plus you definitely for sure don't have to worry about a stock cracking with an a3sa. Besides the possible stock cracking issue, what are you hearing about QC issues on the A3 M2's? I haven't heard anything, but I also am not on Reddit where a lot of that stuff seems to get posted. Sven Manticore Arms |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2024 1:27:18 AM EST
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Have they resolved the stock issues on the a3m2?
Nothing specifically bad per se about the a3m2 specifically but rather that the A3 SA has nicer fit and finish and overall quality than any of the ones after it including the a3 m2. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 11:43:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TSH77769: Have they resolved the stock issues on the a3m2? Nothing specifically bad per se about the a3m2 specifically but rather that the A3 SA has nicer fit and finish and overall quality than any of the ones after it including the a3 m2. There is no way to know until putting a case of ammo downrange- visibly there is no difference between an A3, A3M1 and A3 M2 stock that I can see, nor can I tell if they are going to break. Steyr has nit publicly acknowledged there was ever an issue, so I doubt they will say anything. Sven Manticore Arms |
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USA
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Posted: 7/21/2024 12:06:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TSH77769: Have they resolved the stock issues on the a3m2? Nothing specifically bad per se about the a3m2 specifically but rather that the A3 SA has nicer fit and finish and overall quality than any of the ones after it including the a3 m2. Can you post some pictures comparing your A3 to the M2? I’m interested in seeing them side by side. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2024 9:52:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: texasyid]
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Nothing specifically bad per se about the a3m2 specifically but rather that the A3 SA has nicer fit and finish and overall quality than any of the ones after it including the a3 m2. I have an A3 SA one of the early Sabre guns and a 40th anniversary and don't really see any difference in quality. If anything the 40th is nicer and it has a forged receiver. |
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Posted: 7/22/2024 12:27:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: Manticore_Arms]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TSH77769: Have they resolved the stock issues on the a3m2? Nothing specifically bad per se about the a3m2 specifically but rather that the A3 SA has nicer fit and finish and overall quality than any of the ones after it including the a3 m2. Possible cracking stock issues aside (which of course is a genuine QC concern, so I do understand how that would weigh into the comment) there is nothing with the fit, finish, and function between all three that looks or feels any different IMHO. Sven Manticore Arms |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2024 1:30:32 PM EST
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Maybe they've changed how the m2s are made then or improved quality control because there is definitely a difference between my a3sa rifles and my a3m1 rifles for sure.
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Posted: 7/23/2024 2:04:48 PM EST
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Someone post some pictures please.
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Posted: 7/23/2024 2:42:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbstractIdeas: Someone post some pictures please. i am traveling today and tomorrow but will try to post some pics when I get back Thursday. Sven . Manticore Arms |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 8:30:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Ejection port cover is in prototyping. If things gonwell it will be in the production que in about two weeks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Originally Posted By Nate762: I have your rail and though it is nice and sleek I’d most likely eventually burn myself on the gas block. Wish you guys could make a heat shield for that. How’s the ejection port cover coming along? Ejection port cover is in prototyping. If things gonwell it will be in the production que in about two weeks. If you could PM me when they’re available I’d love to buy one as soon as possible. I appreciate you supporting the platform! |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 9:26:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nate762: If you could PM me when they’re available I’d love to buy one as soon as possible. I appreciate you supporting the platform! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nate762: Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Originally Posted By Nate762: I have your rail and though it is nice and sleek I’d most likely eventually burn myself on the gas block. Wish you guys could make a heat shield for that. How’s the ejection port cover coming along? Ejection port cover is in prototyping. If things gonwell it will be in the production que in about two weeks. If you could PM me when they’re available I’d love to buy one as soon as possible. I appreciate you supporting the platform! I will definitely post in this thread and will pm you too. We should have it moving into the production que this week, had to make a minor design adjustment thatI will confirm (and hopefully approve) tomorrow. Sven Manticore Arms |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:58:54 PM EST
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Maybe they've changed how the m2s are made then or improved quality control because there is definitely a difference between my a3sa rifles and my a3m1 rifles for sure. Could you post some pics showing the exact differences you are talking about. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 4:35:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TSH77769: Maybe they've changed how the m2s are made then or improved quality control because there is definitely a difference between my a3sa rifles and my a3m1 rifles for sure. Ok so which one seems to be better made? How and where? |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 6:23:07 PM EST
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I'm away from home for a while so no I can't right now unfortunately.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/5/2024 1:19:50 PM EST
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Can’t speak for the newest version but can with the Sabre A3 vs late M1. The QC was definitely better on the Sabre , the Sabre and early FN barrels fit more consistently and were nicely chrome lined and very consistent with accuracy over many 1000s of rounds. not so much with later FN & nitride bbls. The later M1s had exposed metal in the receiver, poor fitting parts and dings under the finish, ejecting port covers, chracking stocks. They jseem rushed putting them together vs taking their time and fitting things properly. Steyr US is perfectly capable of making a good AUG but they need to quit cutting corners. Hopefully they upped their game with the new version with more than a few gimmicky mlok slots.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:57:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: texasyid]
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So how do your Aug's compare cosmetically to these. https://www.steyr-arms.com/en/sporting-rifles/aug-sa/
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Posted: 8/11/2024 11:44:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullAssault: Can’t speak for the newest version but can with the Sabre A3 vs late M1. The QC was definitely better on the Sabre , the Sabre and early FN barrels fit more consistently and were nicely chrome lined and very consistent with accuracy over many 1000s of rounds. not so much with later FN & nitride bbls. The later M1s had exposed metal in the receiver, poor fitting parts and dings under the finish, ejecting port covers, chracking stocks. They jseem rushed putting them together vs taking their time and fitting things properly. Steyr US is perfectly capable of making a good AUG but they need to quit cutting corners. Hopefully they upped their game with the new version with more than a few gimmicky mlok slots. The rail slots/handguard they are selling for the M2 aren't even the ones they were showing off in the TFBTV video where they were showcasing the new and improved M2 or what they are showing on the website as the new and improved M2. So...who knows. Maybe I'm missing something. |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 1:31:31 PM EST
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Sven,
Any updates on the m2? I've been hoping to hear good things and maybe see some pictures of the rifle with your thoughts. I am working through my reservations and seriously looking at picking one up. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:34:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dissident: Sven, Any updates on the m2? I've been hoping to hear good things and maybe see some pictures of the rifle with your thoughts. I am working through my reservations and seriously looking at picking one up. Sorry, been travelling but did snap some pics of the A3 M2, will post them up this week. The only discernible difference is it has an A1 chargnng handle, a complete “flat top” A3 receiver top but with bolt holes for both A3 and A3 M1 rsil mounting, and the receiver is cut so you can fold the charging handle flush against the receiver in the forward position just like the Lithgow AUGs |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2024 1:06:18 PM EST
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I've had a MSAR, an Aug A3, and now a A3 M2. Sven, I am the one that contacted you about the charging handle.
The M2 is really just the same as an A3, with the exception of the different charging handle, and new rail and forend you have to buy seperately. It also no longer has the Steyr markings in white, and says multi-cal instead of .223 on the receiver. Gas block is marked 556x45. I did buy the new rail, and forend, and it works fine. It's not life changing or anything. Same trigger, same gas system, same stock, etc. I love my Augs, but if steyr wants to sell them, they need to design a gas system that works suppressed. Instead of a huge incoming port that bleeds off, how about a smaller port that uses all the gas to move the piston? Anyway, I would post a pic, but it looks like an A3, with a different rail. If you have an A3, save your money. I got mine from Bereli when they had them on sale for $1599. |
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