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8/20/2014 10:23:48 AM EDT
When applied for my first two stamps at the same time, I had just created my Trust and had those receivers listed on a page "Assignment to ****** Trust"  The page is notarized.

Now I have a stamp for a third AR receiver.  I suppose I should add it to the Assignment page?  Should it be notarized again?  Or do I need a completely new page notarized?

Thanks.
8/20/2014 10:54:34 AM EDT
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You should never make changes to a document that has been notarized, and the notary should not have notarized it with blanks that would allow it to be easily changed after notarization.  There's also no reason that an assignment of property (other than land) would need to be notarized.

Do a new assignment page listing the new item, and don't include a notary block.  Sign and date it and you're gtg.
8/20/2014 11:49:35 AM EDT
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assignment page doesn't need to be notarized but most require that if you have any trustees in the trust that they review and sign the assignment page if any changes are made to the  trust.
8/20/2014 11:55:09 AM EDT
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assignment page doesn't need to be notarized but most require that if you have any trustees in the trust that they review and sign the assignment page if any changes are made to the  trust.
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My nfa trust has a schedule A template for adding firearms, as the trustee I just need to sign, it doesn't need to be notarized
8/20/2014 12:36:03 PM EDT
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assignment page doesn't need to be notarized but most require that if you have any trustees in the trust that they review and sign the assignment page if any changes are made to the  trust.
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Assigning property to the trust does not make a change to the trust, and there's no reason that all the trustees (or for that matter, any trustee at all) would need to sign any assignment to the trust.  Certainly at least one trustee should know what the trust owns (it's kind of difficult for me, as a trustee, to take care of trust property if I don't know what the trust owns), but that doesn't mean that I need to sign the assignment document as a/the trustee.

Conceptually, an assignment page is like a bill of sale--it's a document used to transfer ownership of property.  A straight bill of sale does not require the buyer's agreement to anything, and is typically only signed by the seller.  An assignment to a trust, in this context, transfers something you own as an individual to the trust.  You'd sign that as an individual, not as a trustee.

Now, if the terms of your trust require that some or all of the trustees agree to any transfer of property to the trust, or sign the assignment document, or anything similar, you'd need to comply with that.  That would be a pretty unusual requirement, though.
8/20/2014 1:43:03 PM EDT
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Why don't you save yourself headaches in the future by executing a Deed of Gift to Trustee where you state that all future acquisitions of NFA items from this date forward are deemed to be made in your capacity as trustee on behalf of the  xxx trust unless otherwise indicated in writing before acquisition?  You then simply reference that document on a revised Schedule A and never need to revise your schedule again...
8/20/2014 2:43:41 PM EDT
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Why don't you save yourself headaches in the future by executing a Deed of Gift to Trustee where you state that all future acquisitions of NFA items from this date forward are deemed to be made in your capacity as trustee on behalf of the  xxx trust unless otherwise indicated in writing before acquisition?
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By what mechanism do you believe you can make a gift (i.e., transfer ownership) of something you don't own?  Deeds, bills of sale, and other documents of conveyance can only convey what you own at the time you execute them.
8/20/2014 2:54:46 PM EDT
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By what mechanism do you believe you can make a gift (i.e., transfer ownership) of something you don't own?  Deeds, bills of sale, and other documents of conveyance can only convey what you own at the time you execute them.
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Why don't you save yourself headaches in the future by executing a Deed of Gift to Trustee where you state that all future acquisitions of NFA items from this date forward are deemed to be made in your capacity as trustee on behalf of the  xxx trust unless otherwise indicated in writing before acquisition?



By what mechanism do you believe you can make a gift (i.e., transfer ownership) of something you don't own?  Deeds, bills of sale, and other documents of conveyance can only convey what you own at the time you execute them.
No, they can be written for future actions as well to simplify those transactions as being done on behalf of the trust...


 
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