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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2018 2:00:48 PM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
I metered the APC9 with the Omega 9K at the ear and MIL STD. Need a few days to get it written up.  That’s my setup. Waiting for the write up.
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USA
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Posted: 7/6/2018 7:28:31 PM EST
[#2]
^^^ Mine too, with a legacy 3 lug.
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Posted: 7/7/2018 9:02:01 AM EST
[#3]
Live now. Let me know your thoughts.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/07/07/mp5sd-versus-apc9/ |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2018 11:28:11 AM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
Live now. Let me know your thoughts. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/07/07/mp5sd-versus-apc9/  . I would have thought the mp5SD would be lower, and I wonder if the APC9 with a longer can like that surefire might also lower the numbers?
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Posted: 7/7/2018 11:40:12 AM EST
[#5]
Thanks for posting. I'm in the market for suppressors for my B&T's. For no other reason than continuity and known quality I am/was leaning B&T 3 lug (P26, KH9, APC9) and B&T Impulse (for the USW). Price and serviceability make me hesitant to jump in feet first with these. The TP9 suppressor is a must have due to the proprietary 3 lug, and I already have the traditional 3 lug adapter for it.
I have to admit the Omega 9k is definitely on my radar, I'm surprised at how it performed against the MP5SD. The Ryder 9Ti's performance got my attention as well. Nice write up. |
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Posted: 7/7/2018 12:08:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bestiller:
Thanks for posting. I'm in the market for suppressors for my B&T's. For no other reason than continuity and known quality I am/was leaning B&T 3 lug (P26, KH9, APC9) and B&T Impulse (for the USW). Price and serviceability make me hesitant to jump in feet first with these. The TP9 suppressor is a must have due to the proprietary 3 lug, and I already have the traditional 3 lug adapter for it. I have to admit the Omega 9k is definitely on my radar, I'm surprised at how it performed against the MP5SD. The Ryder 9Ti's performance got my attention as well. Nice write up. Not that I think you are, I just want to be clear with everyone. |
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Posted: 7/7/2018 2:25:40 PM EST
[#7]
Lol....Point taken
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2018 7:11:10 PM EST
[#8]
So the APC was quieter and less expensive.
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USA
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Posted: 7/9/2018 12:23:17 AM EST
[#9]
FWIW... I’ve decided to sell my APC9 on the EE. Turns out I’m not going to have enough time to compete with it this or next year and it came down to sell it or stamp it. Chose to sell and replace later.
I firmly believe the APC9 is the finest PCC on the market, hands down. I’m a little bummed to let it go, but I’ll be back! |
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USA
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Posted: 7/13/2018 7:37:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By new21022:
FWIW... I’ve decided to sell my APC9 on the EE. Turns out I’m not going to have enough time to compete with it this or next year and it came down to sell it or stamp it. Chose to sell and replace later. I firmly believe the APC9 is the finest PCC on the market, hands down. I’m a little bummed to let it go, but I’ll be back! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2018 10:55:56 AM EST
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So both stamps got approved this week.
Obsidian 9 went pending 12/28/17 SBR went pending 03/23/18 
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Posted: 7/15/2018 11:17:22 AM EST
[#12]
Very Nice setup!
I love the APC9, I have TP9 suppressor and Octane 9 in NFA jail right now that I can't get soon enough.
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Posted: 7/15/2018 12:51:07 PM EST
[#13]
awesome setup!
My Surefire Mp5 can for my B&T 3 lugs went pending March, so that's motivating |
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Posted: 7/15/2018 2:33:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BS68280:
So both stamps got approved this week. Obsidian 9 went pending 12/28/17 SBR went pending 03/23/18 https://i.imgur.com/OFb8avi.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sk0bvUX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/bsGgPAH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/r582Kyy.jpg What is the LOA with the stock fully collapsed and the suppressor in the K configuration? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2018 4:26:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: humahuma]
[#15]
just got the form 1 back. a little less than 5 mos.
edit: i looked at this picture and noticed the magazine is damaged. one of the little clips on the floor plate broke. i do remember dropping it loaded on the carpet a few days ago... 
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Posted: 7/17/2018 12:09:51 PM EST
[#16]
How does it run and sound with the obsidian 9 in either config? Mine is still in jail and Ive probably got 7 months left...
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2018 1:03:28 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By branflake12:
How does it run and sound with the obsidian 9 in either config? Mine is still in jail and Ive probably got 7 months left... |
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Posted: 7/17/2018 7:06:33 PM EST
[#18]
Awesome, thank you! Hope its everything you want it to be!
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Posted: 7/20/2018 1:22:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: yamadog35]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By branflake12:
How does it run and sound with the obsidian 9 in either config? Mine is still in jail and Ive probably got 7 months left... |
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USA
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Posted: 7/20/2018 11:29:05 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eternal24k:
cool, but this thread isn't for advertisement Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eternal24k:
Originally Posted By new21022:
FWIW... I’ve decided to sell my APC9 on the EE. Turns out I’m not going to have enough time to compete with it this or next year and it came down to sell it or stamp it. Chose to sell and replace later. I firmly believe the APC9 is the finest PCC on the market, hands down. I’m a little bummed to let it go, but I’ll be back! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2018 8:43:34 AM EST
[#21]
I apologize if this has been covered before but ..... Those of you that have the collapsible stock, it appears to partially cover the ejection port when retracted. Is this the case, or can the APC cycle reliably with the stock retracted? Thanks in advance....
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Posted: 7/22/2018 2:52:37 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By new21022: Chill bro. Not advertising. Just saying that I wish I had more time to compete with the APC9, it's just not happening. I can't keep it right now, but I'll be back I think. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 6:32:04 PM EST
[#23]
TP9 Silencer on both the TP9-N and APC9. You guys are getting the first data.
147gr Ranger JHP 82 78% Humidity B&T TP9 N MILSTD Muzzle 130+ 126.1 126.4 127.2 124.9 127.2 130+ 127.1 126 126.6 127.9 128 127.5 bolt hold open Rt Ear 130+ 136.1 133.6 135.5 134.9 Lt Ear 127.9 126.3 125.4 125.6 126.1 APC9 MILSTD Muzzle 129.8 127.6 130+ 127.7 130+ 128.4 127.9 126.9 126.5 126.4 129.8 128.6 Rt Ear 130+ 134.7 138 133.4 138.8 136.2 Lt Ear 132.4 129.8 135.1 129.9 131.8 133.1 |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2018 7:43:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: AKSU]
[#24]
Added a G trigger and some HB Industries parts.
-safety selector delete -reduced weight selector springs -charging handle -SF M300 light mount -slim forend grip panel 
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Posted: 7/25/2018 7:18:19 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yamadog35:
I just shot my APC9 this morning with an Obsidian 9 I just got out of jail. I shot it in short config back to back with an Octane 45. Of course the much longer Octane was quieter, but the short Obsidian wasn't unpleasant at all. Certainly hearing safe. The short Obsidian also did well on my MP5. If you ever shoot it long, feel free to update! |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 7:20:12 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSU:
Added a G trigger and some HB Industries parts. -safety selector delete -reduced weight selector springs -charging handle -SF M300 light mount -slim forend grip panel https://i.imgur.com/6G5g6wY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hNAY7lP.jpg |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2018 10:57:44 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By branflake12:
Very nice. How are the panels and charging handle? noticeably better than stock? The M300 panel pulls the light in real close. The only negative is you need to use a mag well grip to activate the light. Losing the pic rails gets rid of the chunky forearm. The CH is knurled unlike the stock CH but I wouldn’t say it’s noticeably better. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2018 4:38:24 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSU:
So the APC was quieter and less expensive. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 5:54:10 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By awd_xtc: I'd like to see the two compared with the same aamo. 124 gn VS 147 gn isnt exactly a fair comparison, at least not to me. I am not saying this test sucks either. I found the results to be very interesting but I am wondering why the different ammo. With the barrel porting, there’s no real reason to run subsonic ammo, especially with the SD locking piece. I’ll post updated results. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/26/2018 12:00:34 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
TP9 Silencer on both the TP9-N and APC9. You guys are getting the first data. Was @ear testing approximate to where you'd have the TP9 if it had a stock or was it pushed out further? |
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USA
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Posted: 7/26/2018 10:45:30 AM EST
[#31]
Can any one with g trigger confirm this?
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Geissele-BandT-APC9-Trigger-No-Bueno/48-491094/?page=1&anc=bottom#bottom |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/26/2018 7:42:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steviesegal:
Can any one with g trigger confirm this? https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Geissele-BandT-APC9-Trigger-No-Bueno/48-491094/?page=1&anc=bottom#bottom |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 6:21:10 PM EST
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I bought a folding charging handle from THSF, it showed up today. Great product from B&T (and great service from THSF as always), great feel and you hardly notice it when it's collapsed. Easy to grab and open when it's collapsed and B&T claims it closes when the bolt is dropped, mine goes about 3/4 of the way but I'm sure when it's fired it closes all the way. It'll also get a bit looser when it's been used a few hundred times. I didn't like the stock charging handle so as soon as I saw this I jumped on it. To me the stock one sticks out too far and is uncomfortable to use.
 
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USA
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Posted: 8/6/2018 6:59:27 PM EST
[#34]
Does it rub the receiver folded? Thanks!
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Posted: 8/6/2018 7:44:36 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJofFL:
Does it rub the receiver folded? Thanks! |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 8:39:30 PM EST
[#36]
Pretty slick
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Posted: 8/7/2018 11:28:30 AM EST
[#37]
That's pretty cool.
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Posted: 8/7/2018 2:26:44 PM EST
[#38]
Neat. Didnt know this was a thing.
But but...how will you brace with your thumb for an elite tier 0 operator super quiet suppressed shot? You gonna die. ...likley going to order one today.
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Posted: 8/7/2018 2:43:38 PM EST
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Also, do we have a line for spare parts yet? I'd like a backup firing pin, extractor, maybe a bolt and its bits, feedramps, etc.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2018 3:21:27 PM EST
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Not super uptodate on B&T stuff. What is the word on the glock magazine lowers for the APC 9? Is this still happening as a standalone product or factory configuration? That might put me over the edge to get one.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2018 6:50:59 PM EST
[#41]
B&T just posted info/video of the APC9 Pro on their Instagram!! It has the non reciprocating charging handle. A redesigned lower that takes AR pistol grips and I believe I heard it can take Glock mags along with the standard APC mags.
Looks sweet! |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2018 9:06:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: N_Parker]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chisel:
B&T just posted info/video of the APC9 Pro on their Instagram!! It has the non reciprocating charging handle. A redesigned lower that takes AR pistol grips and I believe I heard it can take Glock mags along with the standard APC mags. Looks sweet! |
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Posted: 8/8/2018 11:39:30 PM EST
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Went shooting with my dealer the other day, very quiet in long and still pretty quiet in short when using 147 grain subsonics. I’d say it’s hearing safe even in short when using subsonic ammo. I honestly prefer it in the long configuration since it has maximum suppression and I don’t really notice the weight difference. 3.5 months down, hopefully only a few more to go! |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 8/11/2018 10:02:44 PM EST
[#44]
Who sells the collapsible stock for the lowest price? I may dump more money into my money pit.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:51:57 PM EST
[#45]
damn, that's badass. How does the stock feel when shooting?
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Posted: 8/12/2018 11:45:31 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eternal24k:
damn, that's badass. How does the stock feel when shooting? |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 11:47:50 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSU:
Who sells the collapsible stock for the lowest price? I may dump more money into my money pit. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 8/13/2018 10:01:21 AM EST
[#48]
Do we know if the PRO will come with an increase in price?
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Posted: 8/13/2018 10:43:00 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m6z:
Do we know if the PRO will come with an increase in price? |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 12:48:03 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bestiller:
I’d be willing to bet if the standard model remains in production, the PRO models will most definitely have higher MSRPs. If I hadn’t jumped on the B&T PCC train from the beginning, I’d most definitely be on the PRO, but I’m 6 B&T 9mm’s in and redundancy in my safe is an understatement. Not enough change there to lure $2k+ out of me. The GHM45 is another story. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bestiller:
Originally Posted By m6z:
Do we know if the PRO will come with an increase in price? 
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