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Going w/a KISS setup until I can come up w/an optics setup I like and it looks like the Beretta adjustable rear GRS is going to work nicely. Attached File |
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I just bought a mesa tactical stock for mine. I wanted to stay traditional for the last year but with as much as I use AR types, I’m too used to pistol grips. Hoping it trims down a little recoil ETA yes it does. Stock length works better for my build. |
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Originally Posted By Tomac: Going w/a KISS setup until I can come up w/an optics setup I like, all that's missing is the GG&G aluminum mag tube cover which should be here Monday. Moved the Streamlight back a tad, minimal increase in 12 o'clock barrel shadow and it looks like the Beretta adjustable rear GRS is going to work nicely. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1593/Final_Beretta_A300UP_jpg-3412811.JPG You could use an MLOK cantilever rail to extend that light out and remove that barrel shadow all together. It will still be tucked up close to the gun and out of the way at the 6 o’clock position. Profile wise it will be similar to the old Surefire handguards on the 870. https://www.ergogrips.net/shop/ergo-5-slot-m-lok-low-pro-cantilever-u-m-p-rail/ |
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Originally Posted By MK318: You could use an MLOK cantilever rail to extend that light out and remove that barrel shadow all together. It will still be tucked up close to the gun and out of the way at the 6 o’clock position. Profile wise it will be similar to the old Surefire handguards on the 870. https://www.ergogrips.net/shop/ergo-5-slot-m-lok-low-pro-cantilever-u-m-p-rail/ Originally Posted By MK318: Originally Posted By Tomac: Going w/a KISS setup until I can come up w/an optics setup I like, all that's missing is the GG&G aluminum mag tube cover which should be here Monday. Moved the Streamlight back a tad, minimal increase in 12 o'clock barrel shadow and it looks like the Beretta adjustable rear GRS is going to work nicely. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1593/Final_Beretta_A300UP_jpg-3412811.JPG You could use an MLOK cantilever rail to extend that light out and remove that barrel shadow all together. It will still be tucked up close to the gun and out of the way at the 6 o’clock position. Profile wise it will be similar to the old Surefire handguards on the 870. https://www.ergogrips.net/shop/ergo-5-slot-m-lok-low-pro-cantilever-u-m-p-rail/ He did that. It's back a page towards the bottom |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: He did that. It's back a page towards the bottom Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By MK318: Originally Posted By Tomac: Going w/a KISS setup until I can come up w/an optics setup I like, all that's missing is the GG&G aluminum mag tube cover which should be here Monday. Moved the Streamlight back a tad, minimal increase in 12 o'clock barrel shadow and it looks like the Beretta adjustable rear GRS is going to work nicely. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1593/Final_Beretta_A300UP_jpg-3412811.JPG You could use an MLOK cantilever rail to extend that light out and remove that barrel shadow all together. It will still be tucked up close to the gun and out of the way at the 6 o’clock position. Profile wise it will be similar to the old Surefire handguards on the 870. https://www.ergogrips.net/shop/ergo-5-slot-m-lok-low-pro-cantilever-u-m-p-rail/ He did that. It's back a page towards the bottom Ah, I didn’t see it. Disregard then. |
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Originally Posted By MK318: Ah, I didn’t see it. Disregard then. Originally Posted By MK318: Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By MK318: Originally Posted By Tomac: Going w/a KISS setup until I can come up w/an optics setup I like, all that's missing is the GG&G aluminum mag tube cover which should be here Monday. Moved the Streamlight back a tad, minimal increase in 12 o'clock barrel shadow and it looks like the Beretta adjustable rear GRS is going to work nicely. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1593/Final_Beretta_A300UP_jpg-3412811.JPG You could use an MLOK cantilever rail to extend that light out and remove that barrel shadow all together. It will still be tucked up close to the gun and out of the way at the 6 o’clock position. Profile wise it will be similar to the old Surefire handguards on the 870. https://www.ergogrips.net/shop/ergo-5-slot-m-lok-low-pro-cantilever-u-m-p-rail/ He did that. It's back a page towards the bottom Ah, I didn’t see it. Disregard then. Actually, that's a good suggestion, thx! It does eliminate barrel shadow and frees up more handguard if you like a more forward grip, I may end up going back to that setup, experimenation is called for. |
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Does anyone know of an optic setup for the A300UP that provides about a 1/3 cowitness w/the GRS w/the GRS still usable? I don't want a true cowitness as the GRS front/rear would clutter the sight picture and I don't want the optic mounted so high as to make it unworkable. Thx! |
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Originally Posted By MK318: Ah, I didn’t see it. Disregard then. Originally Posted By Tomac: Actually, that's a good suggestion, thx! It does eliminate barrel shadow and frees up more handguard if you like a more forward grip, I may end up going back to that setup, experimenation is called for. I kinds liked it farther out as well. My only concern would be ruggedness. I think it was one of garand thumbs video that had his wml flopping around while in the A300 forend.  The Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol, The Best Combat Shotgun for the Price? At least at 6oclock I think it would be less likely to snag and act as a lever |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: I kinds liked it farther out as well. My only concern would be ruggedness. I think it was one of garand thumbs video that had his wml flopping around while in the A300 forend.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErLWeooIy4At least at 6oclock I think it would be less likely to snag and act as a lever Since this is for HD and not everyday duty use, I'm not terribly worried about ruggedness, especially since it's at 6 o'clock and, as you mentioned, less likely to snag or receive impacts. It also has the benefits of better beam location for clearing corners and centering the hotspot parallel w/the barrel for snapshots. Hmmm... ETA: I'm headed to the range w/it again tomorrow, this time to try it w/o gloves to determine if the texturing is too aggressive for me. If so, I've read about using sandpaper to take the edge off, any suggestions as to the appropriate grit to use (I'm a sandpaper noob)? |
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Originally Posted By MK318: You could use an MLOK cantilever rail to extend that light out and remove that barrel shadow all together. It will still be tucked up close to the gun and out of the way at the 6 o’clock position. Profile wise it will be similar to the old Surefire handguards on the 870. https://www.ergogrips.net/shop/ergo-5-slot-m-lok-low-pro-cantilever-u-m-p-rail/ Originally Posted By MK318: Originally Posted By Tomac: Going w/a KISS setup until I can come up w/an optics setup I like, all that's missing is the GG&G aluminum mag tube cover which should be here Monday. Moved the Streamlight back a tad, minimal increase in 12 o'clock barrel shadow and it looks like the Beretta adjustable rear GRS is going to work nicely. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1593/Final_Beretta_A300UP_jpg-3412811.JPG You could use an MLOK cantilever rail to extend that light out and remove that barrel shadow all together. It will still be tucked up close to the gun and out of the way at the 6 o’clock position. Profile wise it will be similar to the old Surefire handguards on the 870. https://www.ergogrips.net/shop/ergo-5-slot-m-lok-low-pro-cantilever-u-m-p-rail/ I second this, I use an arisaka inline mount for my wml, but they have other nice options available as well.  |
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Originally Posted By Tomac: Does anyone know of an optic setup for the A300UP that provides about a 1/3 cowitness w/the GRS w/the GRS still usable? I don't want a true cowitness as the GRS front/rear would clutter the sight picture and I don't want the optic mounted so high as to make it unworkable. Thx! GG&G makes a optic mount for a RMR that is a perfect lower 1/3rd. Holosun 407C also works perfect on that mount. |
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Originally Posted By Tomac: ETA: I'm headed to the range w/it again tomorrow, this time to try it w/o gloves to determine if the texturing is too aggressive for me. If so, I've read about using sandpaper to take the edge off, any suggestions as to the appropriate grit to use (I'm a sandpaper noob)? Use masking tape to cover the non-textured border of the textured area. I would start with at least 320 grit. It won't take much sanding to smooth out high points. Go a little at a time. |
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Originally Posted By TrailerTrash556: Use masking tape to cover the non-textured border of the textured area. I would start with at least 320 grit. It won't take much sanding to smooth out high points. Go a little at a time. Originally Posted By TrailerTrash556: Originally Posted By Tomac: ETA: I'm headed to the range w/it again tomorrow, this time to try it w/o gloves to determine if the texturing is too aggressive for me. If so, I've read about using sandpaper to take the edge off, any suggestions as to the appropriate grit to use (I'm a sandpaper noob)? Use masking tape to cover the non-textured border of the textured area. I would start with at least 320 grit. It won't take much sanding to smooth out high points. Go a little at a time. Thx! I'd prefer not to be a 'measure once, cut twice' kind of guy.  |
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Just out of curiosity, have there been any reported failures of the factory two-piece plastic mag tube cover? ETA: I ask 'cause while I understand the interest in aluminum over plastic for the mag tube cover itself (I plan on running w/o the mag tube clamp), the lack of reported failures (I haven't found any except for a single cold-weather reference) makes me wonder if an aluminum mag tube cover is a necessity or just 'nice to have.' Thoughts? Thx! |
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Originally Posted By Tomac: Just out of curiosity, have there been any reported failures of the factory two-piece plastic mag tube cover? ETA: I ask 'cause while I understand the interest in aluminum over plastic for the mag tube cover itself (I plan on running w/o the mag tube clamp), the lack of reported failures (I haven't found any except for a single cold-weather reference) makes me wonder if an aluminum mag tube cover is a necessity or just 'nice to have.' Thoughts? Thx! The aluminum mag tube is very thin under the polymer. Beretta likes to use polymer to increase the strength of metals. The only concern I have over the single piece tube is the possibility of it getting dented and causing feeding issues so the only thing an aluminum cover would do is thicken the hide. I think the polymer cover is probably fine for 99% of the users out there. |
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Originally Posted By greyeyezz: That polymer cover holds your foregrip and barrel on, think of it that way. I have but haven't been able to find anything indicating it's a failure point on the A300UP's & 1301's after years of use. |
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Originally Posted By Mindfull: Why would you think it was a failure point? I don't think it's a failure point, but I asked as replacing the plastic mag tube cover w/an aluminum one seems to be one of the 'must have' upgrades, hence my earlier question as to why. |
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Update: Hit the range this afternoon w/a friend for more testing, function was 100% through another 50 or so rds of mixed bird & buck. Aggressive texturing didn't seem to bother our bare hands, but I can see how that could become troublesome if you went through a lot of shells in a short period of time. If you don't plan on installing an RDS, then I strongly suggest replacing the non-adjustable factory GRS w/this adjustable one: Beretta Adjustable Rear GRS For A300UP/1301 I had to crank the rear GRS down as far as it would go to and some to the left to center my patterns, but they did center.  WML plug came out sometime during testing, unknown if it was from recoil (most likely) or if I didn't fully seat it during installation. More testing is in order and if recoil-induced I'll have to improvise something to prevent it. However, my friend gave the A300UP his highest praise by telling me after shooting it "I think you just cost me money..." I am so satisfied w/the A300UP that I just ordered another... 
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Originally Posted By Tomac: I don't think it's a failure point, but I asked as replacing the plastic mag tube cover w/an aluminum one seems to be one of the 'must have' upgrades, hence my earlier question as to why. Because the plastic one is chonky and the clamp is flimsy |
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Originally Posted By AK-12: Because the plastic one is chonky and the clamp is flimsy Originally Posted By AK-12: Originally Posted By Tomac: I don't think it's a failure point, but I asked as replacing the plastic mag tube cover w/an aluminum one seems to be one of the 'must have' upgrades, hence my earlier question as to why. Because the plastic one is chonky and the clamp is flimsy I understand about the mag tube clamp (not going to use it anyway unless I have to) but have any of the mag tube *covers* failed? |
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Originally Posted By Tomac: I understand about the mag tube clamp (not going to use it anyway unless I have to) but have any of the mag tube *covers* failed? I was one of the posters who earlier said I thought it needed upgraded. I didn’t realize the 1301 used the same one. I’m thinking with all of the gamers that have beat the shit out of them if it was a problem it would be pretty well known by now. |
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Originally Posted By optimator: I was one of the posters who earlier said I thought it needed upgraded. I didn’t realize the 1301 used the same one. I’m thinking with all of the gamers that have beat the shit out of them if it was a problem it would be pretty well known by now. Originally Posted By optimator: Originally Posted By Tomac: I understand about the mag tube clamp (not going to use it anyway unless I have to) but have any of the mag tube *covers* failed? I was one of the posters who earlier said I thought it needed upgraded. I didn’t realize the 1301 used the same one. I’m thinking with all of the gamers that have beat the shit out of them if it was a problem it would be pretty well known by now. That's my line of thinking as well. |
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Originally Posted By optimator: I was one of the posters who earlier said I thought it needed upgraded. I didn’t realize the 1301 used the same one. I’m thinking with all of the gamers that have beat the shit out of them if it was a problem it would be pretty well known by now. Originally Posted By optimator: Originally Posted By Tomac: I understand about the mag tube clamp (not going to use it anyway unless I have to) but have any of the mag tube *covers* failed? I was one of the posters who earlier said I thought it needed upgraded. I didn’t realize the 1301 used the same one. I’m thinking with all of the gamers that have beat the shit out of them if it was a problem it would be pretty well known by now. Gamers don't use slings. If something slides they just fix it at the end if the match |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: Gamers don't use slings. If something slides they just fix it at the end if the match Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By optimator: Originally Posted By Tomac: I understand about the mag tube clamp (not going to use it anyway unless I have to) but have any of the mag tube *covers* failed? I was one of the posters who earlier said I thought it needed upgraded. I didn’t realize the 1301 used the same one. I’m thinking with all of the gamers that have beat the shit out of them if it was a problem it would be pretty well known by now. Gamers don't use slings. If something slides they just fix it at the end if the match True, but there’s quite a bit more abuse on gamer shotguns than just sling mounts. |
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I replaced that cover because I thought it was an important upgrade, YMMV. If 90% of people in this thread buy a pro lifter that doesn't mean I am. Not doing timed reloads anytime soon, in fact a quick slug changeover is more important to me. Now the plastic rear sight bothers me, one good wack and it's probably done. If someone makes a metal unit (LPA) I'm on it. |
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WML Update: While satisfied w/the TLR RM2, its location, the remote switch location and the cantilever mount, I wasn't entirely satisfied with the cable management. I moved the mount back half a slot which not only allows for the cable management shown below, but if I experience recoil-induced switch plug detachment I can run a zip tie from the lower front of the handguard to apply direct tension onto the cable to prevent switch plug movement. Attached File |
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Im unfamiliar with the sight but $846 at locked loaded is the lowest ive seen it https://gun.deals/product/beretta-a300-ultima-patrol-12-gauge-3-191-71-semi-auto-shotgun-grayblack-88150-email-price |
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Originally Posted By virgilc1984: Im unfamiliar with the sight but $846 at locked loaded is the lowest ive seen it https://gun.deals/product/beretta-a300-ultima-patrol-12-gauge-3-191-71-semi-auto-shotgun-grayblack-88150-email-price I recently ordered both my A300UP's from there at that price, they're gtg (and they don't charge sales tax  ).
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if anyone is looking A300 UP Gray $846 email for price |
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Been following this thread for what, a couple years now? I finally bought one I already have a 1301 and a M4-LE model. Love the 1301. The M4LE fails to fire ~2% of the time but Benelli doesn’t seem to care. Bought the A300 to try something different. I don’t need another shotgun but I also don’t need much of a reason to buy another shotgun  ETA- Ran 40 rounds of various shotshells through my new Ultima Patrol. The gun handled everything without issue, including some really crappy Winchester “Universal” bulk pack from Walmart that MOST of my guns hate. I use it to help establish a baseline for reliability when vetting new-to-me guns. Recoil was not bad at all, despite the lightweight gun, even with full power Buck. On par with my 1301T, maybe a tad more felt recoil than my M4. I like the sights and they seem dead centered, although I was only shooting at about 20 feet. Eventually I’ll put a red dot and a light on it. I really like having the option for a sub-$1K serious, defensive, auto-loading shotgun. |
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Originally Posted By Makarov: Been following this thread for what, a couple years now? I finally bought one I already have a 1301 and a M4-LE model. Love the 1301. The M4LE fails to fire ~2% of the time but Benelli doesn’t seem to care. Bought the A300 to try something different. I don’t need another shotgun but I also don’t need much of a reason to buy another shotgun It's not really about 'need', is it?...
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GG&G RMR mount came in the mail today, I got a Holosun 407c at Scheels on sale a couple weeks ago. It'll be a minute before I can mount them but looking forward to it. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: GG&G RMR mount came in the mail today, I got a Holosun 407c at Scheels on sale a couple weeks ago. It'll be a minute before I can mount them but looking forward to it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/261156/1000017882_jpg-3420221.JPG When did you place your order? Still waiting on mine. 
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Originally Posted By Tomac: When did you place your order? Still waiting on mine. Originally Posted By Tomac: Originally Posted By LV1976: GG&G RMR mount came in the mail today, I got a Holosun 407c at Scheels on sale a couple weeks ago. It'll be a minute before I can mount them but looking forward to it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/261156/1000017882_jpg-3420221.JPG When did you place your order? Still waiting on mine. @Tomac I ordered it December 16th. Go ahead and give them a call if its been more than 7 business days. |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: @Tomac I ordered it December 16th. Go ahead and give them a call if its been more than 7 business days. 
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Originally Posted By LV1976: GG&G RMR mount came in the mail today, I got a Holosun 407c at Scheels on sale a couple weeks ago. It'll be a minute before I can mount them but looking forward to it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/261156/1000017882_jpg-3420221.JPG @LV1976 What sort of cowitness does that setup give you with the factory GRS? Thx! |
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Originally Posted By MK318: He is slow to release things because he personally tests the hell out of stuff before it goes up for sale. If you buy something from Aridus you can bet your life on it. This isn’t a knock of GG&G, it’s just that some companies are in this race to be first to market without really fully vetting their product. We’ve seen this with Midwest Industries with their MLOK rail for the 1301 awhile back. I expect Aridus to make A300 specific parts eventually if they aren’t already T&Eing some things already Originally Posted By MK318: Originally Posted By BoomToob: Originally Posted By John_Wayne777: This is another reason why I encourage people to get the Aridus original products rather than the GG&G ripoffs. It's better engineered and better quality. Aridus doesn’t make a version of this product. He is slow to release things because he personally tests the hell out of stuff before it goes up for sale. If you buy something from Aridus you can bet your life on it. This isn’t a knock of GG&G, it’s just that some companies are in this race to be first to market without really fully vetting their product. We’ve seen this with Midwest Industries with their MLOK rail for the 1301 awhile back. I expect Aridus to make A300 specific parts eventually if they aren’t already T&Eing some things already Does Aridus make a good replacement bbl clamp? I was looking at GGG one but I'm up for something better, if available. |
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Originally Posted By Tomac: @LV1976 What sort of cowitness does that setup give you with the factory GRS? Thx! Originally Posted By Tomac: Originally Posted By LV1976: GG&G RMR mount came in the mail today, I got a Holosun 407c at Scheels on sale a couple weeks ago. It'll be a minute before I can mount them but looking forward to it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/261156/1000017882_jpg-3420221.JPG @LV1976 What sort of cowitness does that setup give you with the factory GRS? Thx! Don't know yet, won't be able to mount it for at least another month. |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: Don't know yet, won't be able to mount it for at least another month. |
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Originally Posted By glazer1972: You guys like all black or the grey receiver? I could do either, but settled on black for no particular reason. I would have purchased whichever was least expensive at the time of purchase. |
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