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12/18/2015 8:54:04 PM EDT
I have a POF MP5  and plan to have a Mp5k and ptr91 sometime in the next year or two. Eventually I will want to have trigger jobs done on all 3 guns. I know in the past that Bill Springfield had been the main recommended person for trigger jobs but I have recently seen some threads were people have stated that his quality has been declining over the last few years.  Is he still the go to guy for HK trigger jobs  or there are other options I should be looking into?
12/18/2015 9:36:31 PM EDT
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I don't like bashing people BUT...no, go a different direction

Yes he did two AR triggers for me that...Failed to do what they were meant to do...
12/18/2015 9:43:29 PM EDT
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Denny Williams for HK's

Steer clear of Springfield.



12/18/2015 9:44:08 PM EDT
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It was years ago, but he installed a usp match/hybrid trigger for me, and did a trigger job on my hk91 lower and g36.  both came out great and never an issue.
12/18/2015 9:49:53 PM EDT
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Good to know. Just checked his site, he has a lot of detail on MP5 trigger differences before and after. I definitely want to send mine to him now.
12/18/2015 9:51:02 PM EDT
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Recent threads on HKPro have steered me away from him, his quality slipped with his health.
12/18/2015 10:25:22 PM EDT
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He did my large pin Colt trigger.  It came out great.

Helluva lot cheaper than a new trigger.
12/18/2015 10:39:24 PM EDT
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12/18/2015 11:17:40 PM EDT
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Install one of these and be done with it: http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/MATCH-SEMI-AUTO-SEAR-SPRING-FOR-HK-136p10.htm



I have 6,000 rounds on one of these springs and the thing just keeps hummin' along. Trigger pull is smooth and light; it's not a Geiselle triger, but it's much nicer than any factory HK trigger, that's for sure.
12/20/2015 12:21:08 AM EDT
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yes!!!!!


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Install one of these and be done with it: http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/MATCH-SEMI-AUTO-SEAR-SPRING-FOR-HK-136p10.htm

I have 6,000 rounds on one of these springs and the thing just keeps hummin' along. Trigger pull is smooth and light; it's not a Geiselle triger, but it's much nicer than any factory HK trigger, that's for sure.
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12/21/2015 9:36:04 PM EDT
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He did my PTR 91 trigger a few years ago. Best I've ever seen. Almost match. Hate to hear that his quality has fallen off. I like mine a lot.
12/22/2015 8:42:22 PM EDT
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Install one of these and be done with it: http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/MATCH-SEMI-AUTO-SEAR-SPRING-FOR-HK-136p10.htm

I have 6,000 rounds on one of these springs and the thing just keeps hummin' along. Trigger pull is smooth and light; it's not a Geiselle triger, but it's much nicer than any factory HK trigger, that's for sure.
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About how much pull weight does this drop over a stock trigger pack ?
12/23/2015 8:48:21 AM EDT
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Install one of these and be done with it: http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/MATCH-SEMI-AUTO-SEAR-SPRING-FOR-HK-136p10.htm



I have 6,000 rounds on one of these springs and the thing just keeps hummin' along. Trigger pull is smooth and light; it's not a Geiselle triger, but it's much nicer than any factory HK trigger, that's for sure.






About how much pull weight does this drop over a stock trigger pack ?


I guess "stock trigger pack" will run a wide range of pull weights, depending on the originating country/factory. I will say that comparing my German 93 to my MP5 clone with this sear spring, the difference was easily 3 lbs.



 
12/23/2015 9:15:57 PM EDT
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Got mine to 6 lbs
12/24/2015 9:47:02 PM EDT
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My 93 clone is at 10 lbs., I'm going to get one and hope for 6-7 lbs.
12/25/2015 1:08:28 AM EDT
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I guess "stock trigger pack" will run a wide range of pull weights, depending on the originating country/factory. I will say that comparing my German 93 to my MP5 clone with this sear spring, the difference was easily 3 lbs.
 
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Install one of these and be done with it: http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/MATCH-SEMI-AUTO-SEAR-SPRING-FOR-HK-136p10.htm

I have 6,000 rounds on one of these springs and the thing just keeps hummin' along. Trigger pull is smooth and light; it's not a Geiselle triger, but it's much nicer than any factory HK trigger, that's for sure.



About how much pull weight does this drop over a stock trigger pack ?

I guess "stock trigger pack" will run a wide range of pull weights, depending on the originating country/factory. I will say that comparing my German 93 to my MP5 clone with this sear spring, the difference was easily 3 lbs.
 


Thanks for the link, I just ordered one. I love everything about the MP5 trigger, I'd just like it to be lighter. All the other characteristics of it are great, so I think this will work nicely. I'll update when I get it.
12/26/2015 3:58:03 AM EDT
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I'm happy with my Springfield trigger job on my FMP G-3.

It was fast and quick and it is a nice 4 pounds right now.

Very happy.
12/28/2015 11:40:41 AM EDT
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He did a P30S on mine to reduce the reset.  One issue was that I was still able to dry fire with safety on.  Uh......WTH?

He did have it redone at his cost and it worked fine before I sold it but I will hesitate to recommend him.
12/28/2015 11:05:29 PM EDT
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Mine was less than 6 lbs on "FIRE" and just a little over 10 lbs on "SAFE".

I was not amused.
12/28/2015 11:14:11 PM EDT
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Mine was less than 6 lbs on "FIRE" and just a little over 10 lbs on "SAFE".

I was not amused.
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Mine was less than 6 lbs on "FIRE" and just a little over 10 lbs on "SAFE".

I was not amused.




Does he not test his work at all before he sends it out the door?
12/28/2015 11:23:01 PM EDT
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Got mine to 6 lbs


Mine was less than 6 lbs on "FIRE" and just a little over 10 lbs on "SAFE".

I was not amused.




Does he not test his work at all before he sends it out the door?


I don't know. I also don't know if mine was the only one to be a "not such a bad trigger pull" when on SAFE.

What I do know is that pulling the trigger while on SAFE resulting in the rifle firing, and flexing the lower receiver (metal, not plastic) did the same.

That trigger pack is no longer installed in a firearm.
12/30/2015 10:11:00 AM EDT
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I have had to repair/replace no less than 8 triggers that were done by BS.
The last one was on a PTR and it was horrid. The sear was rounded badly, it appeared that it had just been polished on a buffing wheel rather than stoned to a crisp edge. The hammer wasn't much better.
This resulted in a very vague trigger with no consistency. The sear engagement was actually negative engagement, which means as the sear is moved the hammer actually travels forward which is very dangerous and will lead to hammer follow and doubling.
It took about two hours of careful stone work to get it back crisp and square, the trigger is now a crisp 5.5# with a predictable and clean break.
The AR triggers I have seen from him bear evidence of overzealous stoning/grinding/polishing which cut right through the case hardened surfaces of the hammer/sear. One trigger the sear face was actually blue from over heating.
You might have a decent trigger out of the box but it will degrade rapidly because the softer "core" material is now the bearing surface of the sear.

Too bad, he used to do good work at a decent price.
12/30/2015 10:38:17 AM EDT
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I will let you know how my ARX 100 trigger turns out.   Just sent it to him today.



No aftermarket triggers for the ARX yet.






12/30/2015 10:49:09 AM EDT
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I will let you know how my ARX 100 trigger turns out.   Just sent it to him today.

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I hope you bought a spare.
12/30/2015 11:13:07 AM EDT
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I will let you know how my ARX 100 trigger turns out.   Just sent it to him today.





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I hope you bought a spare.
wish I knew his work sucked before I sent. No, I don't have a spare. I will buy a new one if I have to.



 
12/31/2015 7:24:55 PM EDT
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Yeah, me too. I just paid $300 for a complete clipped and pinned MP5 lower from him with a trigger job about a month ago. Great thing is I won't be able to shoot it for months so I won't know if it's a hack job or not.
1/7/2016 9:48:33 PM EDT
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His work failed after a few hundred rounds in my GSG-5.  

Failure to fire.

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