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Posted: 3/20/2012 5:41:24 PM EDT
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I've seen questions posted about this gun a couple of times. My overall impression from that is that Bushmaster in general isn't liked much here. But, if that topic can be avoided, what are the downsides of the ACR? I'd really like to hear from people who owe or have owned one.
I've got a chance to buy a new one at about $1300. Why shouldn't I do that? |
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The downside to Bushmaster is their customer service(they are sometimes rude and/or not helpful). The rifle itself is pretty awesome. The things that people complain about are the 1/9 twist barrel which personally myself and others who actually own the ACR's have no problems with. You can also swap out the barrel for a different one if you want to. Another complaint is the weight, which can also be attributed to the barrel. Once again, you can get a lighter weight barrel with a 1/7 twist if you want to. The last complaint you hear is the lack of replacement parts and/or caliber conversions. This has and continues to get better with time as you can get some of the parts from BM and a few people out there are making the needed parts for caliber conversion. The rifle is still new and I think that with some more time there will be more accessories.
Thats a great price you can get one for. They are fun to shoot, reliable, accurate, easy to clean, comfortable and tool less. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I own one. Great rifle, no problems at all. $1300 is a great price. The only downside for me is the weight of the barrel. can it be removed and sent to ADCO to be turned down or possibly fluted? Probably. Just give them a shout and aske them. They're pretty helpful people. My friend has an ACR and he has a 2 digit serial #. So, one of the early ones. He was affected by the firing pin recall. He also had a roll pin walk out of the bolt carrier (?) it ended up gouging his receiver up pretty good. Bushmaster took care of him right quick. They said that the pin problem is only on the early models so I wouldn't worry very much about that. The thing I don't like about it is that I feel that it is muzzle heavy and I do not like that in a firearm. Not a fan of the safety either. The bolt catch/release is quite nice though. I spent double the money and got a SCAR instead.  It's a good gun though |
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I own one. Great rifle, no problems at all. $1300 is a great price. The only downside for me is the weight of the barrel. can it be removed and sent to ADCO to be turned down or possibly fluted? Probably. Just give them a shout and aske them. They're pretty helpful people. My friend has an ACR and he has a 2 digit serial #. So, one of the early ones. He was affected by the firing pin recall. He also had a roll pin walk out of the bolt carrier (?) it ended up gouging his receiver up pretty good. Bushmaster took care of him right quick. They said that the pin problem is only on the early models so I wouldn't worry very much about that. The thing I don't like about it is that I feel that it is muzzle heavy and I do not like that in a firearm. Not a fan of the safety either. The bolt catch/release is quite nice though. I spent double the money and got a SCAR instead.
It's a good gun though And I suppose SBRing it and chopping a few inches off the barrel would only save you a few ounces and not solves any issues huh? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I own one. Great rifle, no problems at all. $1300 is a great price. The only downside for me is the weight of the barrel. can it be removed and sent to ADCO to be turned down or possibly fluted? Probably. Just give them a shout and aske them. They're pretty helpful people. My friend has an ACR and he has a 2 digit serial #. So, one of the early ones. He was affected by the firing pin recall. He also had a roll pin walk out of the bolt carrier (?) it ended up gouging his receiver up pretty good. Bushmaster took care of him right quick. They said that the pin problem is only on the early models so I wouldn't worry very much about that. The thing I don't like about it is that I feel that it is muzzle heavy and I do not like that in a firearm. Not a fan of the safety either. The bolt catch/release is quite nice though. I spent double the money and got a SCAR instead. It's a good gun though And I suppose SBRing it and chopping a few inches off the barrel would only save you a few ounces and not solves any issues huh? Actually, my friend did SBR his. It balances out nicely now. I also SBR'd my SCAR and man does it point fast. However, once you add a suppresser, like we both did, that muzzle heavy feeling comes back. Not quite as bad and still balances nicely for both platforms. I'm not pitching for the SCAR, just adding some anecdotes from another perspective since I own one and have handled/shot the other. |
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I own one. Great rifle, no problems at all. $1300 is a great price. The only downside for me is the weight of the barrel. can it be removed and sent to ADCO to be turned down or possibly fluted? To answer your question, yes. ADCO can and has turned down many ACR barrels in front and behind the gas block. Fluted and dimpling has also been done. Also when you remove the SCAR's and ACR's barrel assemblies the rifles weigh the same, hence all the weight is in the barrel. |
| My only complaint is the M4 profile barrel and front heaviness. Once they grow a brain and address this I will buy one. BM either doesn't respond to customer feedback or has a truckload of cheap M4 barrels they are trying to use up or are just lazy and don't care. The ACR is a fine rifle and would probably fly off the shelf with a couple minor changes. I could even overlook the 1-9 twist if they would address the other things. |
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My only complaint is the M4 profile barrel and front heaviness. Once they grow a brain and address this I will buy one. BM either doesn't respond to customer feedback or has a truckload of cheap M4 barrels they are trying to use up or are just lazy and don't care. The ACR is a fine rifle and would probably fly off the shelf with a couple minor changes. I could even overlook the 1-9 twist if they would address the other things. I agree. Once they put out the lighter barrels with the 1/7 twist their sales will boom. I just hope they stick with the melonited barrel inside and out over chrome lining. I really am like the melonite. |
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My only complaint is the M4 profile barrel and front heaviness. Once they grow a brain and address this I will buy one. BM either doesn't respond to customer feedback or has a truckload of cheap M4 barrels they are trying to use up or are just lazy and don't care. The ACR is a fine rifle and would probably fly off the shelf with a couple minor changes. I could even overlook the 1-9 twist if they would address the other things. I agree. Once they lower the price to something people will pay their sales will boom. I just hope they stick with the melonited barrel inside and out over chrome lining. I really am like the melonite. Fixed that. 
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| I brought mine to the range today. It got a lot of attention from some AR shooters there. They were impressed with it. Like myself, the only complaint they had was the heavy front weight. Also like most shooters around here, the 1/9 barrel was no problem as few people shoot anything heavier than 62 gr fodder (from my observations, 95% use 55 gr). |
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what are the downsides of the ACR? 1. M4 barrel is just stupid, there is no other word for it. Well, maybe "pointless" would work 2. I had a high three-digit S/N, and a roll pin walked out of the charging handle and f-ed up the inside of my upper 3. Weight 4. No practical caliber changes (the promise of which was the only thing separating the ACR and my AR180, other than furniture) 5. Cyclic rate was too fast when shooting 5.56mm, resulting in the unique "recycling malfunction." 6. Bolt and barrel extention locking lugs wear because they often don't line up properly I had high hopes for the ACR. I have waited a looooong time for a modernized AR180 (G36 not withstanding) and the ACR has enormous potential, but unless and until a proven and battle tough version is available I will remain a "former" ACR owner. |
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I've seen questions posted about this gun a couple of times. My overall impression from that is that Bushmaster in general isn't liked much here. But, if that topic can be avoided, what are the downsides of the ACR? I'd really like to hear from people who owe or have owned one. I've got a chance to buy a new one at about $1300. Why shouldn't I do that? Downside: The only thing I can think of is the weight (not weight so much, but front-weight bias). Why Not Strike at $1.3k: I can't think of any reason not to, this is an awesome price. I purchased a black basic ACR about a year ago, bought an enhanced folding stock this last month, had ADCO turn down my barrel to pencil profile in front of and underneath the handguard and swapped out the A2 FH to a YHM 5M1 muzzle comp. The ergo's are second to none - oversized trigger guard, bolt catch and release integrated into the trigger guard, sling attachments all over the rifle, non-reciprocating charging handle, ability to switch the charging handle to both sides, ease of cleaning (compared to my AR's DGI system), adjustable cheek weld, looks... The aforementioned points were really why I went with this platform, not so much the inter-changeable barrel option. Anyway I hope this helps answer your question. Let us know what you decided on doing... |
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I love the idea, layout and operation of the ACR.
I just can't stand BM's execution. Had an ACR for a year, and it spent more time in the mail or at BM for warranty repairs and recalls than it did in my safe. Once it was finally unfucked, I got rid of it. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat if BM wasn't anywhere near it. . . . |
| I got handle one for quite a while recently and it felt unbalanced to me. It wasn't terrible, but it seems like if they put a lighter barrel on it then it would be awesome. Overall it didn't feel that heavy, just unbalanced. It kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth that for such an expensive rifle they seemed to miss the mark on such an easily fixable problem. Other than that the rifle seemed very well made, and the guy shooting it seemed to like it. |
| I got to handle both of the upgraded models at SHOT this year. Light weight barrels. One had the silly barrel removal device removed with a lightweight barrel nut option. Those rifles are so heads and shoulders above the standard BM rifles its sickening. Suffice to say, they could make it what it could be if they wanted too. They just won't. |
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I'm still pretty sure it's price. They just can't compare to ARs. You can build a damn good AR for $800.
If the ACR was sold for under a grand than it would sell. It's space age looking and was in a video game. People would buy it just for that if they saw it on the shelves and it was a part of the marketplace. As it stands, the thing is mostly vaporware to folks. Vaporware that costs waaaay too much. |
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My only complaint is the M4 profile barrel and front heaviness. Once they grow a brain and address this I will buy one. BM either doesn't respond to customer feedback or has a truckload of cheap M4 barrels they are trying to use up or are just lazy and don't care. The ACR is a fine rifle and would probably fly off the shelf with a couple minor changes. I could even overlook the 1-9 twist if they would address the other things. BM HASN'T GROWN A BRAIN APPARENTLY. How many people have bitched about the M4 barrel? How many have wanted different barrels? Guess what? BM displayed their replacement barrels at the NRA show. New barrel assemblies should become available in November. The kicker? THEY ARE M4 PROFILE 
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