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4/26/2010 10:19:00 AM EDT
Whats the difference between CCI#41 and CCI450 Magnum small rifle primers?
4/26/2010 10:24:52 AM EDT
[#1]
#41s are Mil-Spec.  A little harder than others, and are recommended for use in guns with floating firing pins.

#450s are magnum, and are a little hotter than the standard small rifle primers.  They are recommended for certain powders only.   CCI recommends you use them only when the load or powder calls for it.  I use H335 powder, which calls for a magnum primer, so this is the one I use.

The standard small rifle primer gets used for some other powders like Varget.
4/26/2010 11:05:02 AM EDT
[#2]
I can't be positively certain, but here's what I've heard. I hear that the #41 cups are thicker than the 400 cups, but thinner than the 450, and that the #41's priming pellet and anvil is set slightly further from the cup, to prevent slamfires.  Since they are hotter than 400's, I hear they should be treated as magnum primers.
4/26/2010 11:38:37 AM EDT
[#3]
I thought the only difference between magnum primers and regular primers is the cup thickness or is that only wolf.
4/26/2010 12:18:11 PM EDT
[#4]
According to my Speer reloading manual, they are interchangeable.  



Maybe the #41 has a slightly thicker cup for AR/M16s

4/26/2010 12:38:48 PM EDT
[#5]
The CCI mil-spec primers have 3 significant characteristics:
1) They are constructed so as to reduce the possibility of a slam-fire.  That's reduce, not eliminate.  Proper relading/primer seating technique is still a MUST.
2) They are formulated to igniite in cold temps more reliably than std. primers.
3) They produce a flame equivalent to a Magnum primer of the corresponding size.

This is all from the CCI web site.
4/26/2010 1:05:34 PM EDT
[#6]
According to an email response I received from CCI Technical Services the 450 and #41 share the same pellet compound and brisance.  The cup thickness of .025" is identical as well.  The only difference in the #41 from the 450 is there is more 'distance' between the tip of the anvil and the bottom of the cup.  This adds a bit more insurance against slam-fires, but considering the track record of standard BR4 and 450 primers - and others with the same .025" cup thickness like the Rem 7 1/2 BR - this really hasn't been a problem under normal conditions and rifle maintenance.
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