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11/3/2011 6:19:52 PM EDT
I know the CETME is not a H&K product, but it is close to the H&K G3, but a cheaper version. Im looking to buy a CETME or an AK. Both guns im looking at are the same price. I like the larger 308 round going through the CETME, but the AK's 7.62x39. AK has a lot more external modifications than the CETME, but CETME has enough to work with. I heard the the CETME's have a bad wrap, but so do WASR-10 AKs. If you get a good rifle of either one, they are extremely reliable. My budget is around $600 for a base gun. I will worry about ammo and mods after a while. CETME v. AK?
11/3/2011 6:30:40 PM EDT
[#1]
I had a Cetme for work doing balistics testing.

Good rifle once I fixed the jamming problems and after firing 300 hundred rounds through it.

The jmming problems was caused by a very dirty chamber that had cosmoline in it. Once cleaned gun was just stiff. It operated easier as more round went through it. Accurate for what we were doing. Recoil was mild.

Ak47 wasar was fair shot reliably during testing but just did not fit me well.

If forced to choose, I would go with Cetme due to my shooting style or fit.

If going for cheaper to shoot then the ak is the choice.

Or the Arfcom way.    Buy both.
11/3/2011 6:32:30 PM EDT
[#2]
If I had the cash I would definitely buy both :D   Thanks
11/3/2011 8:22:03 PM EDT
[#3]
I traded my AK for Century's G3 clone.  I had a few Century mfg problems but worked through them and am very happy with it.  Can't go wrong with 7.62 Nato

You do know that as soon as you have one, you are gonna want a FAL too


ETA
11/8/2011 5:18:33 PM EDT
[#4]
Cetmes are good as long as you know what to look for.  I highly recommend that you inspect any Century made Cetme before purchase, but if you inspect it and know what to look for you can get a great rifle.  Some of the problems are easy to fix once you know what to do.  Check out militaryfirearm.com this site started as the Cetme site and these guys know everything there is to know about them.

Read through the stickys and FAQs on the Cetme/HK page:  http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/forumdisplay.php?23-Cetme-HK

Also make sure you join the site so you can see the photos!
11/8/2011 6:40:01 PM EDT
[#5]
I had to tinker with both of mine to get them 100%
11/8/2011 7:15:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Cetme is my vote. G3 mags can be made to work, and the mags are super cheap right now. Can you buy an AK mag for $2? I wanted a 7.62 battle rifle and went through a few rifles before I decided to build a G3 clone. It was the best thing I ever did! Sold off all my other 762 natos.

Learn about bolt gap, cocking tube gap, and how to measure them and you will be well equiped to make a good choice when buying a cetme.

ETA pic:
12/22/2011 10:09:48 AM EDT
[#7]
Is there a newer batch of CETME's out there now? I hadn't seen any at the local gun store for awhile and I went in there today and they had one that looked lightyears better then what they used to get in a few years ago. It almost looked new. Great wood, great action, metal looked good. The old ones they used to get looked they went through hell and back.
12/22/2011 11:46:24 AM EDT
[#8]
Big bore semiautos can be a tad finicky if not assembled correctly. You know that from the WASR.  Cetme's and HK's are not very well understood by the average corporate builder (someone that just does assembly day in and day out to meet a quota) and occasionally shortcuts are taken that the consumer has to fix if not caught during the warranty period.
If you buy a cetme and it's built right it will be the smoothest shooting .308 you'll have ever shot.  Get a bad one and you'll be upset.  Follow the links to the inspection points on the MF site that's posted above. If it seems like too much work, get the AK.
12/22/2011 6:31:32 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Big bore semiautos can be a tad finicky if not assembled correctly. You know that from the WASR.  Cetme's and HK's are not very well understood by the average corporate builder (someone that just does assembly day in and day out to meet a quota) and occasionally shortcuts are taken that the consumer has to fix if not caught during the warranty period.
If you buy a cetme and it's built right it will be the smoothest shooting .308 you'll have ever shot.  Get a bad one and you'll be upset.  Follow the links to the inspection points on the MF site that's posted above. If it seems like too much work, get the AK.


If it was not for Century arms and their angry Beavers we would not be the expert CETME/ H&K gunsmiths .They gave us a reason to have forums and Gun boards so we could all get together and learn from each other .And if it was not for Holescreek I would not have been able to convert my CETME trigger from full-auto to semi .I learned a lot about my CETME's that I know how to fix,repair and trouble shoot
12/23/2011 10:58:56 AM EDT
[#10]
get the cetme love my cetme
12/24/2011 10:34:42 AM EDT
[#11]
I had an early CETME on the SS receiver.Wish I had kept it.I just picked up a newer production one.The bolt was un-ground,the sights were straight,and the bolt gap(.009)and handle gap were ok.I added + rollers to it and swapped out the stocks.I haven't shot it yet,but everything looks good to go.I might take the chance on another one.Definitely do your homework and try to buy one you can inspect first.
12/25/2011 5:10:11 AM EDT
[#12]
Do yourself a favor and get a PTR91, It will work right out of the box.
Cetme's are out of production anyway.




HDH.
12/25/2011 5:48:47 AM EDT
[#13]
I got mine in trade and was told it wa a POS cuz you couldnt even pull the cocking handle all the way back.

30 min of reading/fiddling and I found it had a slightly bent ejector lever.  

A qucik disassembly, put the ejector lever in a vice for 2 seconds and a tap with a mallet and it has been perfect for the 500+ rounds I put thru it so far.

ETA to get the alum G3 mags to fit I ahd to do a lil filing on the steel block that was welded in the magwell.
12/26/2011 6:50:03 PM EDT
[#14]
Historicaly..the CETME came first...developed in Spain..H&K liscenced the technology and the first German issued G3 rifles were pretty much Cetme clones.
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