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Posted: 1/6/2015 12:13:21 PM EDT
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Just filed my first Form 1 for a 22 SBR and I have a quick question about marking the caliber. The caliber is not marked on my barrel, so what are my options for taking care of that? I have seen where people just put the caliber under the take-down pin. Also, since I just used "22" on the Form 1, is that all I need to have engraved or does it need to be "22lr". Once I get approved I'll be shipping the lower off to CS223 for engraving so I just want to make sure I know what all I need to do.
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I was assuming he was using a 22 upper on a standard lower, either marked "multi" or maybe "5.56".
I'd either put 22LR under the pivot pin, or have CS223 add it below the SN/model/etc already on the lower. Actually...what I'd really do, I'd file the F1 for an upper that was marked, or if the lower is marked .223/5.56 use a 5.56 upper...and then after mounting that upper I'd swap out for the 22LR upper. 
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Well, I wish I would have asked that before filing, I could have easily just filed it with my 7.5" .223 upper and been just fine. Is it possible to change the form after filing? I'm figuring not, but hoping I can. Nope. But if you can float the $200, just cancel it and refile. It'll take ~60 days for the refund. File it again today with the 5.56 if you want to go that route. (And I bet if you send Ted the request to cancel, and both control numbers, you'll probably have it approved within 48 hours). |
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Nope. But if you can float the $200, just cancel it and refile. It'll take ~60 days for the refund. File it again today with the 5.56 if you want to go that route. (And I bet if you send Ted the request to cancel, and both control numbers, you'll probably have it approved within 48 hours). Quoted:
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Well, I wish I would have asked that before filing, I could have easily just filed it with my 7.5" .223 upper and been just fine. Is it possible to change the form after filing? I'm figuring not, but hoping I can. Nope. But if you can float the $200, just cancel it and refile. It'll take ~60 days for the refund. File it again today with the 5.56 if you want to go that route. (And I bet if you send Ted the request to cancel, and both control numbers, you'll probably have it approved within 48 hours). Do you have the contact information for Ted, I wouldn't mind just going that route. |
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Do you have the contact information for Ted, I wouldn't mind just going that route. [email protected] |
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I am in the same boat. Multi Marked lower and No Caliber on the 22 barrel. I plan to get it engraved on the top of the upper by the charging handle. I will probably have to do this as well for my other SBR's as the caliber is marked on the barrel under the handguard.
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I am in the same boat. Multi Marked lower and No Caliber on the 22 barrel. I plan to get it engraved on the top of the upper by the charging handle. I will probably have to do this as well for my other SBR's as the caliber is marked on the barrel under the handguard. MAHA I was under the impression that as long as it's marked, the marking itself doesn't have to be visible. Like most barrels where the marking is covered by the handguard. Is that true? |
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I was under the impression that as long as it's marked, the marking itself doesn't have to be visible. Like most barrels where the marking is covered by the handguard. Is that true? This is true for Title I firearms, but not Title II (NFA). The caliber marking on an NFA firearm must be visible. |
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This is true for Title I firearms, but not Title II (NFA). The caliber marking on an NFA firearm must be visible. Quoted:
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I was under the impression that as long as it's marked, the marking itself doesn't have to be visible. Like most barrels where the marking is covered by the handguard. Is that true? This is true for Title I firearms, but not Title II (NFA). The caliber marking on an NFA firearm must be visible. Thanks for the clarification, I decided to just get the caliber engraved on the lower and chalk it up as a lesson learned for the future instead of canceling and redoing the form 1. From what communication I've had w/ CS223 I'm sure that it won't be a problem. |
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This is true for Title I firearms, but not Title II (NFA). The caliber marking on an NFA firearm must be visible. Quoted:
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I was under the impression that as long as it's marked, the marking itself doesn't have to be visible. Like most barrels where the marking is covered by the handguard. Is that true? This is true for Title I firearms, but not Title II (NFA). The caliber marking on an NFA firearm must be visible. Does an engraved dust cover with the caliber count? |
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I was under the impression that as long as it's marked, the marking itself doesn't have to be visible. Like most barrels where the marking is covered by the handguard. Is that true? This is true for Title I firearms, but not Title II (NFA). The caliber marking on an NFA firearm must be visible. Does an engraved dust cover with the caliber count? No. The dust cover is a part attached to the receiver, not the receiver itself. |
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Does an engraved dust cover with the caliber count? No. The dust cover is a part attached to the receiver, not the receiver itself. Same reason you can't engrave the removable trigger guard. |
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I just bought a BA Barrel for my 300 build which is going on a "Multi" lower.
Will the BA factory caliber marking on the barrel, as pictured, satisfy caliber marking requirements? The chosen handguard is an Aero "Enhanced Quad Rail" which has has plenty of vent holes (even in the top rail) providing good visibility to the top of the barrel. 
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Thanks for the clarification, I decided to just get the caliber engraved on the lower and chalk it up as a lesson learned for the future instead of canceling and redoing the form 1. From what communication I've had w/ CS223 I'm sure that it won't be a problem. Quoted:
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I was under the impression that as long as it's marked, the marking itself doesn't have to be visible. Like most barrels where the marking is covered by the handguard. Is that true? This is true for Title I firearms, but not Title II (NFA). The caliber marking on an NFA firearm must be visible. Thanks for the clarification, I decided to just get the caliber engraved on the lower and chalk it up as a lesson learned for the future instead of canceling and redoing the form 1. From what communication I've had w/ CS223 I'm sure that it won't be a problem. It is not a clarification, it is an error. I or II the rules are basically the same: Title I: § 478.92 How must licensed manufacturers and licensed importers identify firearms, armor piercing ammunition, and large capacity ammunition feeding devices? (a) (1) Firearms. You, as a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer of firearms, must legibly identify each firearm manufactured or imported as follows: (i) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver thereof an individual serial number. The serial number must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. For firearms manufactured or imported on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch; and (ii) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed. For firearms manufactured or imported on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of this information must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch. The additional information includes: Title II: § 479.102 How must firearms be identified? (a) You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows: (1) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver thereof an individual serial number. The serial number must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch; and (2) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered or removed. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of this information must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch. The additional information includes: |
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If it's legible and conspicuously placed when assembled, you're good to go. That's what the statute says. Quoted:
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Anybody have an answer to my post above? Thanks If it's legible and conspicuously placed when assembled, you're good to go. That's what the statute says. Thank You! |
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