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Posted: 11/3/2016 4:06:29 PM EDT
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OK so I am looking at some older rifles to add to my collection. But was wondering does having stocks with a cartouche warrant more money?
For example on say a Rem. 1903a3 with the springfield crossed cannons etc... same idea with M1 carbines and the M1 garand. Any input to help a rookie to the older rifles out is greatly appreciated. Snert |
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But looking at a complete rifle, NOT at the stock alone.
Remington 1903a3, lets say it has the following marks, crossed cannons, RA and I think it was JAF and circle P. Is a rifle with these worth $150 more or only $10 more than a rifle with only a circle P? I see some rifles with just a circle P, some with nothing at all and others with multiple. interesting to know that repo stamps are available. Guess I will have to be careful to look at them closely if they make a significant price difference. |
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There are so many variables to take into account when valuing a rifle. All things being equal except for the cartouches on the stock, yes the presense of real correct cartouches could add value of $100-200 to a rifle. Taking that one step further, for example, A NM 1903 with a replacement stock compared to a NM1903 with a NM stock with the drawing numbers could change the value by $1000.
Many a USMC 1903 lacked cartouches because they were sanded off at rearsenal or a rebuild. A verified USMC 1903 with hatcher hole, electronic penciled bolt, stipled buttplate could add $100-300 in value. I collect but still shoot most of my 1903s, carbines and Grands so I place more value on barrel condition and stock fit than I do cartouches. |
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There are so many variables to take into account when valuing a rifle. All things being equal except for the cartouches on the stock, yes the presense of real correct cartouches could add value of $100-200 to a rifle. Taking that one step further, for example, A NM 1903 with a replacement stock compared to a NM1903 with a NM stock with the drawing numbers could change the value by $1000. Many a USMC 1903 lacked cartouches because they were sanded off at rearsenal or a rebuild. A verified USMC 1903 with hatcher hole, electronic penciled bolt, stipled buttplate could add $100-300 in value. I collect but still shoot most of my 1903s, carbines and Grands so I place more value on barrel condition and stock fit than I do cartouches. There a a ton of variables regarding cartouches. You really need to do a lot of research if you are new at this. Manufacturer, rebuild marks, and whether or not they have been refinished are just a few of the things to look at. |
| I would say its up to the buyer. The true value of any item is what someone will pay for it. To me the over all condition of the weapon, and serial number match is more important that stock cartouche(s). But, if you cand find a weapon in good condition, matching numbers, at a fair price, the the stamps are like iceing on the cake. |
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