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5/3/2006 12:54:31 PM EDT
Okay I just found out that Cheaper Than Dirt just got their used German Flecktarn flak vest back in stock. Does anyone have one of these? Would you reccomend it over a MOLLE armor carrier vest and a set of these? Thanks.

B_D

ETA: Or at least I THINK they're back in stock. I saved an old link to the page and it didn't say they were outta stock and then it let me add it to my cart. But I just got done talking to a guy on their messenger thing and he said they're not in stock. He also said they didn't come with kevlar [:\]. So I guess if I want one, I'll have to order it from www.flecktarn.co.uk/ in the UK. So I dunno. But still, anyone have a German flak vest?


Well I've given up on Flecktarn stuff pretty much completely. What I wanna get now is a MOLLE armor carrier vest (an F.A.P.C. with Fast Attack Rack to be exact) in ACU camo. I think this would be much more useful and modular than the Flecktarn stuff. Anywho, I was wondering how good these ceramic body armor plates would be? Would they stand up to any rifle bullet hits or pistol bullet hits? Would they be worth the $188 US? Thanks again.

B_D
5/4/2006 10:17:48 PM EDT
[#1]
Flak vests offer so little protection there is little point to wearing them.  

get a used police trade in level IIIA or a plate carrier (My advice anyway)
5/11/2006 5:41:43 PM EDT
[#2]
Changed it.
5/11/2006 6:00:00 PM EDT
[#3]
www.internationalbodyarmor.com/BodyArmor/HardArmor/TitaniumPlate/

These are the plates I went with.

TG



5/12/2006 10:54:06 AM EDT
[#4]
How much were they? Do they sell those to LE/Military only?

ETA: And also, anyone know anything about the ceramic plates..?
5/12/2006 4:24:09 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
How much were they? Do they sell those to LE/Military only?

ETA: And also, anyone know anything about the ceramic plates..?



$165 each  or $330 for front & back.

I  got mine through a dealer.

TG
7/3/2006 4:50:07 PM EDT
[#6]
Bump for more (some) info on ceramic plates.
7/10/2006 1:55:46 PM EDT
[#7]
Another bump.  I'm looking into plates too, but I'm kind of thinking polyethelene may be the way to go for me.




-K
7/10/2006 3:38:04 PM EDT
[#8]
Ceramic plates are supposedly more delicate compared to steel. It is said that they will lose some of their effectivenes in stopping rounds if they are dropped. But they are considerably lighter than steel. The titanium/steel plates that international sells look to be a good alternative to heavy steel with out the weakness of ceramic. Polyethelene plates should not be subjected to high heat. Don't leave them in your car on a hot day. The armor plates thread tacked to the top of this page has a lot of good info concerning all armor, check it out
7/10/2006 3:44:04 PM EDT
[#9]
Forgot to mention that the plates you linked to are decorative plates and not for protective purposes.
7/12/2006 8:30:17 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Forgot to mention that the plates you linked to are decorative plates and not for protective purposes.

Yeah I think I'm gonna go with a titanium plate and a low vis carrier. Thanks guys.
7/12/2006 9:46:06 AM EDT
[#11]
Steel plates are the toughest when it comes to impact and blunt trauma, but they introduce a new risk.  When a bullet hits a steel plate it is liable to ricochet off and into your neck/head/legs/arms, etc.  If you get steel plates, make sure you get level III soft covers!  This will reduce the possibility of this happening, but not entirely.  

Ceramic plates are still the best out there for overall protection.  Mil and LEO use them as well as PMC's.  They absorb the impact of the round and fragment it when it hits the boron carbide layer.
7/12/2006 12:25:42 PM EDT
[#12]
What about titanium? Or a titanium plate in a low vis carrier under fatigues and a Vietnam era flak jacket? I looked at the weight of ceramic plates and 2 titanium plates is about 4 or 5 lbs less than 2 ceramic ones.
7/19/2006 3:31:39 PM EDT
[#13]
I should also mention that the plates in the link look real heavy to me.  Over 8 lbs front and back is a lot of weight.  

Check out the plates in www.bulletproofme.com/Body_Armor_Accessories_Rifle_Protection.shtml.

Most are considerably lighter than the ones you listed - but they do have their liabilities.



-K  


 
7/19/2006 5:07:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Do you mean the ceramic ones from Flecktarn.co.uk or the titanium ones?
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