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11/21/2009 12:21:45 PM EDT
First let me say that I used to load on a single stage loader many, many years ago, I probably don't remember much of it.  I'm getting back into reloading now and after reading some more I am going to get an XL650 instead of the 1050 as I'll be loading mostly .223-5.56 but also 45 ACP and .308.  See how this setup sounds and if I'm missing anything.

Dillon XL650
Dillon 3 Die (Steel) .223
No auto feeder, sensors, or extras
2001 Case Cleaner
500 Media Separator
Gracey Case Trimmer
RCBS X-Die Sizer
Accessories like lube, media, etc..

I'm going to buy some military de-primed once fired brass form GIBrass and use the Dillon full length sizer and finish loading on the Dillon, then after this ammo has been fired use the RCBS X-Die so it won't have to be trimmed on the next re-load.   I may get he Dillon Super Swage later on and just but the brass cheaper with the military primers left in.  How does this sound, any suggestions?
11/21/2009 1:34:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Oh yeah and a chronograph

Also I think I'm going to go with the Dillon electric trimmer on a second toolhead, as I've read you don't need to deburr with the Dillon, that should make things faster than the Gracey as you would have to resize then use the Gracey, two separate steps that the Dillon would make into one.
11/21/2009 5:48:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
First let me say that I used to load on a single stage loader many, many years ago, I probably don't remember much of it.  I'm getting back into reloading now and after reading some more I am going to get an XL650 instead of the 1050 as I'll be loading mostly .223-5.56 but also 45 ACP and .308.  See how this setup sounds and if I'm missing anything.

Dillon XL650
Dillon 3 Die (Steel) .223
No auto feeder, sensors, or extras
2001 Case Cleaner
500 Media Separator
Gracey Case Trimmer
RCBS X-Die Sizer
Accessories like lube, media, etc..

I'm going to buy some military de-primed once fired brass form GIBrass and use the Dillon full length sizer and finish loading on the Dillon, then after this ammo has been fired use the RCBS X-Die so it won't have to be trimmed on the next re-load.   I may get he Dillon Super Swage later on and just but the brass cheaper with the military primers left in.  How does this sound, any suggestions?


I would strongly recommend getting the case feeder for the Dillon 650.  You can reload without it, but once you try it, you will definitely see its value.  I will also second the other response to get the dillon trimmer as it will significantly speed up your prep time.  Also, the dillon super swage will pay for itself in only a few thousand pieces of brass compared to paying GI Brass to process it.  

11/22/2009 12:07:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Ok, I'm ordering on Monday and I've changed my mind again, I' going to get the Giraud, it's about the same price as the Dillon when you factor all the extra stuff you need to make the Dillon work, the trim die, extra decap die, neck sizing die...  it also chamfers and deburs.  I don't think anyone would say to get the Dillon over the Giraud.  Also I am going to get the Dillon Super Swage and buy brass a little cheaper and take the crimped primers out myself.

See if I have this right with how I'm planning to process military once fired brass"

1. Run them through Super Swage to remove crimped primers
2.  Lube, then on seperate tool head use a full length sizer die
3. Run through Giraud, then tumbler to remove lube.
4.  On other toolhead universal decap to remove corncob, seat, charge with powder, and crimp with lee fcd.

Other than that I thought about the auto casefeeder but it seems like it won't take long to dump some brass in by hand, how many does the tube hold like 10 or 15?  Anyone else think the case feeder is worth the $220?
11/22/2009 12:27:38 PM EDT
[#4]
Don't tell me if you don't get the auto case feeder you have to put each piece of brass in the press one by one?  I thought you could fill the tube with 10-15 of them and they would drop in place just like the primers.... This would really suck if you had to do it one by one.
11/22/2009 12:50:23 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes without a case collator you have to put brass in the press one at a time!
11/22/2009 1:23:35 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Yes without a case collator you have to put brass in the press one at a time!


That's great, guess this press is going to cost another $200.  Maybe there's something I'm not seeing but it seems like the auto case feeder just feeds the brass in a tube, why can't they just sell the tube?
11/29/2009 6:45:14 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Yes without a case collator you have to put brass in the press one at a time!


Just got my XL650 in and you do NOT have to put the brass in one at a time without the case loader, it comes with the feeding tube, you can load it full of brass and it will dispense the brass one at a time with each pull of the handle, when it's empty just dump in more brass just like you would with the primer tube.  I might get the auto loader some time but right now for $200 it seems like it not really worth it as it just takes a few seconds to load up the feeder tube.
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