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8/27/2011 6:03:36 AM EDT
How are these for reliability and functionality? Saw one yesterday and was curious. Price was 425.00.

thanks
8/27/2011 6:38:27 AM EDT
[#1]
don't know about durability and functionality, i've only heard from people who quickly got rid of them.

the BHO os a non functional lump.
the threads on the muzzle are metric.
the trigger group is non standard
it's a pain to tear down and clean, unlike every other AR or AR clone out there.
the 30rd mags are huge... about the size of a 40rd 5.56 mag.

i'd suggest the S&W 15-22 or something from CMMG.
8/27/2011 6:42:47 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
don't know about durability and functionality, i've only heard from people who quickly got rid of them.

the BHO os a non functional lump.
the threads on the muzzle are metric.
the trigger group is non standard
it's a pain to tear down and clean, unlike every other AR or AR clone out there.
the 30rd mags are huge... about the size of a 40rd 5.56 mag.

i'd suggest the S&W 15-22 or something from CMMG.


Thanks. I guess I'll pass on that one.

8/27/2011 4:27:00 PM EDT
[#3]
As mentioned, the Colt is made by Umirex (sp?) & imported. It's also a POS of the first order by those who've owned them.

If you're wanting an AR in .22LR caliber,the best two out there right now are the Sig 522 & the S&W AR-22. I had the S&W & traded it in on the Sig & couldn't be happier. The Sig also is the only one using metal mags (AFAIK) made by BlackDog. These are also the same mags that are used in the AR-15 .22LR conversions, so you know the quality is good.

The Sig offers a buttstock that is both retractable as well as folding, the only maker to do that.

Hope this helps!
8/27/2011 4:35:49 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
As mentioned, the Colt is made by Umirex (sp?) & imported. It's also a POS of the first order by those who've owned them.

If you're wanting an AR in .22LR caliber,the best two out there right now are the Sig 522 & the S&W AR-22. I had the S&W & traded it in on the Sig & couldn't be happier. The Sig also is the only one using metal mags (AFAIK) made by BlackDog. These are also the same mags that are used in the AR-15 .22LR conversions, so you know the quality is good.

The Sig offers a buttstock that is both retractable as well as folding, the only maker to do that.

Hope this helps!



Yes, thank you!

8/27/2011 9:49:22 PM EDT
[#5]
Supposedly the Umarex "HK416" is a huge product improvement over the Umarex Colt M4. Cosmetics are awesome.
8/27/2011 10:34:18 PM EDT
[#6]
the Sig 522 may be a good gun, but it's not an AR-15 style gun... it's the .22 version of the Sig 556.

if you just want a fool .22 that's not a problem, if you're looking for something that operates basically the same as an AR then it is.

IIRC the 522 doesn't come with any sights. a minor issue, but something to be aware of.

the 522 uses the standard BDM mags, the 15-22 uses the proprietary S&W mags, not a huge issue because those are readily available for reasonable prices.... but the only options for them are factory mags or the BDM 50rd drums at the moment.. they have buttons on the follower whish is nice, but the feedlips are not metal.




poc is of one of the special models that comes with flup up sights, not the standard A2 fixed sights. just what i found for a sample without hunting all over.
8/28/2011 5:51:03 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
the Sig 522 may be a good gun, but it's not an AR-15 style gun... it's the .22 version of the Sig 556.


While true, the Sig IS a gun that uses AR mags in its .556 version & uses BD mags that is sold with .22LR AR conversion kits. Close enough to be called an AR-type rifle, IMO. YMMV.
8/28/2011 6:44:07 PM EDT
[#8]
I've never heard a bad thing about the S&W, can't say the same about the Colt.  As a matter of fact, I've never heard a good thing about the Colt (Umirex).

If it doesn't "have" to be an AR type, my GSG5-SD is a flat out blast, super reliable and very accurate for a plinker.  I haven't broken it down to clean it since I got it and don't plan to until it stops shooting (I have a bet with a friend that I can get 5k rounds out of it before I take it apart).  I've put about 2500 through it and all I've done is oil the bolt, run a snake through the barrel and wipe the chamber down with a few Q-tips.  Not one failure that wasn't ammo related since I got it.  The hardest part about the bet is going to be not taking it apart to remove the mag disconnect .
8/29/2011 2:23:51 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
As mentioned, the Colt is made by Umirex (sp?) & imported. It's also a POS of the first order by those who've owned them.

If you're wanting an AR in .22LR caliber,the best two out there right now are the Sig 522 & the S&W AR-22. I had the S&W & traded it in on the Sig & couldn't be happier. The Sig also is the only one using metal mags (AFAIK) made by BlackDog. These are also the same mags that are used in the AR-15 .22LR conversions, so you know the quality is good.

The Sig offers a buttstock that is both retractable as well as folding, the only maker to do that.

Hope this helps!



Yes, thank you!



And keep in mind that Umarex is the company making HK's MP5 in .22-you know, the gun they sued GSG over to get rid of a competitior. Them working with HK after the lawsuit is more than enough reason not to buy one. Add that to the already mentioned poor reputation and it's a no brainer.
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