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7/2/2007 1:05:50 PM EDT
Hi! I really want a M1a bad since about 1982 (12 ) and want to ask you guys opinion of trading my Bushmaster M-4, Rem 870 green Tactical with the Knoxx Stock spec-ops stock as a trade for one. Funds are tight now as far as firearm purchases. Should I do that or just put one on lay-a way and bite the cartridge(bullet?)?


ETA: I just want a standard wood or synthetic stocked M1A
7/2/2007 1:07:41 PM EDT
[#1]
Depends on what you are getting out of the deal.  :-)
7/2/2007 1:32:54 PM EDT
[#2]

opinion of trading my Bushmaster M-4, Rem 870 green Tactical


I think you need to keep these ( unless you have doubles ) . M4 for the truck , shotty for the house , M1A for a stand off weapon .
7/2/2007 2:59:43 PM EDT
[#3]
Sell Bushmaster - keep shotgun - buy M1A, PTR or FAL at the top end or a pair of Saigas (308 and 223) for under $600.
7/2/2007 3:45:25 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Depends on what you are getting out of the deal.  :-)


Straight trade maybe?
7/2/2007 8:15:09 PM EDT
[#5]
What type of M1a, though?  Do you have something in mind already?  Plus, the M4 and shotgun are VERY useful in other situations.  The M4 makes a perfect car gun, and the shotty makes for good home defense.  

I think everyone should have these guns or their equiv:

M1a (FAL, HK)
Benelli M1Super90 (remington 870, FN)
Ruger 10/22 (?)
M4 (AK, Sig 550)
1911 (no substitutions here)


That should cover most everything.
7/2/2007 9:05:21 PM EDT
[#6]
A Standard model with a wood or synthetic stock in .308/7.62x51 caliber.
7/7/2007 2:12:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Poll added!
7/7/2007 9:23:39 PM EDT
[#8]
Keep AR. Good for home defense.
Sell shotgun.  What's a shotgun for?
Buy M1A.
7/7/2007 9:43:27 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
What type of M1a, though?  Do you have something in mind already?  Plus, the M4 and shotgun are VERY useful in other situations.  The M4 makes a perfect car gun, and the shotty makes for good home defense.  

I think everyone should have these guns or their equiv:

M1a (FAL, HK)
Benelli M1Super90 (remington 870, FN)
Ruger 10/22 (?)
M4 (AK, Sig 550)
1911 (no substitutions here)


That should cover most everything.
How much are you willing to total spend and when do you want it?
7/7/2007 9:49:02 PM EDT
[#10]
You almost have the basics right now, sans M1A.

Bite the proverbial bullet, put her on layaway, and eat Top Ramen until its paid off. Then sell a kidney or two for ammo.



Seriously, you need an M1A, and you need to keep the ones you have already. Dont sell anything!


7/8/2007 5:25:48 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
You almost have the basics right now, sans M1A.

Bite the proverbial bullet, put her on layaway, and eat Top Ramen until its paid off. Then sell a kidney or two for ammo.



Seriously, you need an M1A, and you need to keep the ones you have already. Dont sell anything!




+1


Did you ever see the Ghost in the darkness??  Remember how the Dr. gave ole Val his rifle because it was more powerful and then it failed to fire right when he had the Lion in his sights.  Don't trade your M4gery.  Nor your shotgun.  Wait until you can afford one.  Ammo is not that cheap for them right now either.  You can still get .223 for cheaper.  But, I agree everyone needs and M1A if they can swing it.  My dad bought mine so I can't say much.
7/8/2007 5:32:10 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
You almost have the basics right now, sans M1A.

Bite the proverbial bullet, put her on layaway, and eat Top Ramen until its paid off. Then sell a kidney or two for ammo.



Seriously, you need an M1A, and you need to keep the ones you have already. Dont sell anything!




Agree
7/8/2007 5:41:36 AM EDT
[#13]
you won't get anything for what you put in your current equipment.     save a little longer.    trust me you will regret trading your current equipment  
7/8/2007 5:58:53 AM EDT
[#14]
I say lay-a-way, but I would not hesitate to dump the M4 in favor of an M14.

I dumped my Dissipator to get my first M14 type rifle and never looked back.

Good luck
7/8/2007 6:25:58 AM EDT
[#15]
Thanks guys! Aroud here Fed AE is about the same as .223 AE. Which means they jacked up the .223 price. Wolf .45 ball is $14.00 a box here. After listening to ya'lls great minds I believe I will save and Lay-a-way one out. I didn't really want to lose my AR/ AK/870 battery I worked so hard for. But man, that M1A is a callin' me strong!
7/8/2007 7:15:19 AM EDT
[#16]
If you need a stronger "push" to get a M1A, buy a couple of boxes of ammo and road trip over my way.  I'd be glad to let you run as many rounds as you want through mine.
7/8/2007 7:18:13 AM EDT
[#17]
Oh, and to confuse the issue even more, buy lunch and I'll let you pop off some rounds through one of my Garands.
7/8/2007 7:20:15 AM EDT
[#18]
Now THAT is a tempting idea! I may have to take you up on that!
7/8/2007 8:12:56 AM EDT
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DO NOT SHOOT THE GARAND..................


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Or you will be buying one of those to.  I went the other way, had a Garand, then found the love that which is the M!A/M14, so i believe i should be good on the list of basic firearms for the whole "End of the world"/"SHTF" Scenario.

Armalite M15A2 Carbine
DPMS LR308
Tricked out 10/22
Mossberg 12 guage
M1 Garand
M1A loaded model with Sadlak scope mount and 3x9x40 scope
SIG226 9mm--SIG229 .40 s&w.

And of course ammo, but never enough of that stuff.

Oh, and the reloading equipment  and supplies if i get desperate for more ammo.
7/8/2007 9:21:08 PM EDT
[#20]
Put some jack away every payday and it won't take long to have a respectable stash set back. Then when a deal comes along in the EE, you will be in a position to haggle a bit and buy at a good price. If you buy when you are hungry( like now, broke but have the wants) you will pay more than you need to.

7/8/2007 9:24:14 PM EDT
[#21]
your M4 should be your go to and SHTF weapon.
I fired a M1a the other day and yes they fricking amazing.
I want one 2 but would never trade my M4. for 1.
But save some money and get it scoped.
7/9/2007 5:46:20 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
you won't get anything for what you put in your current equipment.     save a little longer.    trust me you will regret trading your current equipment  


+1

I have ALWAYS regretted selling parts of my essential armory to buy something else.

IMHO, an M4, a Shotty, and a 1911 are essential. I agree you need something in .30 caliber as a standoff weapon. The M1A is an excellent choice. I actually have a custom Scout Rifle in .308 that I would use for this purpose. I'm just as fast with it in an aimed fire scenario as I am with a Semi Auto. I have it "Clip Slotted to take stripper clips, so replaods are pretty fast. I'm toying with doing the M1A Magazine modification to it.

Tack
7/9/2007 6:44:35 PM EDT
[#23]

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DO NOT SHOOT THE GARAND..................
"End of the world"/"SHTF" Scenario.

Any AR15 Carbine
DPMS LR308M1a counts as a MBR
Tricked out 10/22Make it lightweight and your golden
Mossberg 12 guage
M1 Garand
M1 carbine
M1A keep the irons and learn to use em
SIG226 9mm--SIG229 .40 s&w.Sig220 .45 acp
Ruger MKII
.308 Boltgun

And of course ammo, but never enough of that stuff.

Oh, and the reloading equipment  and supplies if i get desperate for more ammo.


Fixed it for ya
7/11/2007 5:01:14 AM EDT
[#24]
My advice: consider a Garand. The ammo situation is TOTALLY different. That alone now tips the scales heavily to the Garand. And they are ESSENTIALLY  the same rifle. Yes, I know the M1A has a 20 round mag. Other than that, the Garand is every bit as good a rifle and actually has several advatages. JMHO. And I say this having owned mutiples of each.
7/11/2007 5:19:37 AM EDT
[#25]
IMHO, for a static defense weapon the Garand is preferable to the M1A.  This is because of the en bloc clips.  There is no spring to fatigue in them, as there is in a magazine.  Additionally, for next to nothing, you can afford to have many, many rounds "at the ready", as M1 clips are relatively cheap compared to M-14 magazines.  

Also, CMP has tons of quality surplus 30-06 ammo available, in Anniston, at roughly half the price of sometimes questionable .308 surplus, when you can locate it.  Even leaving aside the (IMHO) superior material and workmanship of USGI Garards, as opposed to Springfield Armory Inc.'s M1A, a M1 is roughly half the price of a M1A.

Of course that is just my opinion.  You're welcome to try both of mine and form your own opinion.
7/11/2007 5:54:22 AM EDT
[#26]
Layaway. Don't subtract from your collection.
7/11/2007 6:42:30 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
My advice: consider a Garand. The ammo situation is TOTALLY different. That alone now tips the scales heavily to the Garand. And they are ESSENTIALLY  the same rifle. Yes, I know the M1A has a 20 round mag. Other than that, the Garand is every bit as good a rifle and actually has several advatages. JMHO. And I say this having owned mutiples of each.


I've got nothing against this thinking for sure. You could get a garand first and then see about the M1A.
7/11/2007 7:26:29 AM EDT
[#28]
I am, for some reason, thinking of an Garand!  Thanks all. I didn't realize CMP had surplus 30/06.
7/11/2007 8:34:29 AM EDT
[#29]
http://www.odcmp.com/ammo.htm
7/11/2007 9:01:11 AM EDT
[#30]
My experience:

I learned to shoot on the Garand and love the rifle, but the M14 is a true upgrade so I went with that platform.

No regrets
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