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Posted: 4/10/2007 8:25:34 PM EDT
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www.silencertests.com/ I have no interest in the site outside of stumbling upon it while researching some (hopeful) future purchases. I'm sure many of you folks know about it already, but I'm a noob, and figured other noobs might find it useful. |
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Just remember that if the silencer company you are considering buying from has not spent most of thier R/D money for shiney full page adds in every gun magazine and LE/periodical then thier product is not worth buying. After all it's not about having the quietest and strongest silencer that impresses your friends, it's brand recognition knowing that your friends have seen the items you own in Weapons for L/E magazine. |
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I thought the forums section might be useful as it seems like a lot of discussion goes on there. I read the "about the author" section and yes, I agree, a certain manufacture is probably represented there a little more equally than others. Still, I found the forums section useful. |
Youre freaking kidding me right? |
What gave it away... the line next to forums claiming "we pull fewer posts than other sites"? I signed up on there a little while back. If you have a question it's a good place to go for this topic. Might be a little longer waiting for a response compared to here though. |
No, I'm not. Actually, hopefully the admins will lock this thread. Sorry about trying to be helpful. Next time I'll keep to myself. I read the first six or seven pages of threads in the main forum last night and actually learned stuff about several manufactures, and am now convinced to buy a .22LR can from a MFG other than AAC, one which I hadn't even been considering in the first place, so I guess either the site's evil purpose backfired, or the forums were more impartial and helpful than one would think. While I get plenty of good info from the forums here, it was also good to read the posts over there, on that (god forbid) other board. Either way, I found the site useful, sorry for coming here and apparantly stepping on my crank. |
You are getting flak from this because you stepped into a crossfire and didn't know it. I will give you a quick history so you can know why you stepped into a crossfire. The owner of the other board posted here for a long time and did independent testing of silencers. For various reasons he eventually got banned from AR15.com and so did the company he works with. He no longer does independent tests. Neither the manufacturer he works with nor he can post on this board anymore. The people who own this forum and the guy who owns that forum don't get along. In effect, some people on this board, perceive that board as "the bad guys." You have fan boys of this board and fan boys on that board. In their eyes, it would be like a person coming onto the Dallas Cowboys forum and saying...Hey! Check out the Steelers, they are great! Some of the people on this website have been banned from that website and some people on that website have been banned from this website, for various reasons. It's a "tender" issue for some. Some of the users here also use that message board as well. I am one of those people, so is Hineline, etc... However, please forgive the assholes in this thread for chastising you about trying to help out. There is nothing wrong with you posting what you did. Most of us already know about silencertalk.com, but presumably not everyone does. Please don't be discouraged from posting in the future. |
Still love your tagline Matt!  (BTW, as a matter of disclosure for Matt, he moderates the insane people here AND on silencertalk.com and does a great job) 
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Thanks, no longer moderate at silencertalk.com ... it was a conflict of interest. |
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Well, now that I have a limited understanding of the history, I am feeling a bit better. So thanks for that. Sorry if anyone got butt hurt over my post, I hope you all realize my intent was not to fuel the fire, hell, I didn't even know there was a fire burning at all. I'll leave it at this: I'm going to purchase three or four silencers before the red balloon goes up and we have to defend the homeland and arm our neighbors, and I've been painstakingly researching which ones to buy for months. I have gleamed vast amounts of information from this board, and only last night found "the other board" and found some good stuff there too. I will continue to read both, but having now been better educated, will keep my comments about each board away from the other! 
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Let's really stirr the hornets nest .... what are you going to get? |
Pretty much settled on the TI QUEST -- and if there are any relationships of mystery and discontent between TI and arf.com, or TI and AAC, or TI and Elvis and Bigfoot and the greys, then dammit, I apologize in advance. I was originally looking at a bunch of lighter .22 cans, cheaper too, with aluminum baffles, but after doing some reading, I figured I'd go with all stainless. I will probably be anal retentaive about cleaning the thing, at least until I get a second and third can and become a little less uptight. Plus its going to go on a couple of bolt rifles, and maybe a future 10/22, so weight wasn't exactly an issue. If and when I get a .22 pistol or two, I'll rpobably go with a Pilot or Outback II or... we'll see. I'm not getting the range time I used to, but I just moved into a new place with a 200m range less than 10 minutes away, so I'm hoping to be able to go several days a week after work. Figured I'd use my .22's quite a bit to stay in practice, and wanted a can that would hold up well to (potentially) lots of rounds and lots of cleaning. At one time I was managing six days a week at the range, and if I can get back to that tempo, even with cheap .22's, I'll be pretty damn happy. Plus a really well-made .22 can will get me unceremoniously addicted to quiet weapons, and I'll put painting my house on hold in favor to buying more cans! |
So you had to pick who you were going to be friends with???  
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thats kinda an understatement is it not? I guess I need a sig line like yours as well. |
Im awaiting my stamp to pick up my TI Quest which, in turn, is waiting for me patiently at my dealers. Hopefully only two or three more weeks. BATFE cashed my check Monday (trust). Once I get it maybe ill post some pics. BTW it will be my first. |
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You'll get better info on silencertalk than you will here. Well, at least generally speaking, AFAIK all mfg.'s are welcome to post new products and dicsussion over there, versus here where you gotta pay to "advertise". They also don't over moderate it seems. May change someday when they get more popular and moderation will be needed, for now it seems a small crowd is over there mostly. Interestingly enough, the SigForum started a suppressor forum and AAC is all over that one too. We've reached the day and age it seems where marketing is increasing sales for cans where it seemed yesterday reputation was a bigger selling factor. The popularity of suppressors and the realization that they are not illegal by the more FUDDish shooting crowd make it that way I guess. It seems that AAC is king of the marketing pile right now., IMO. |
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Ignoring the protagonists, both sites have a lot to offer. Regarding 22lr suppressors, the one negative thing I gathered from my research on the TI Quest was the perception of First Round Pop. My initial inquiries with the company were mixed and my dealer reported a similar experience. In the end, I opted to give a Tactical Solutions Titanium Cascade a whirl.
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I'm new to the suppressor world outside of my prior LE experience. Having the ability to now purchase one here in FL is all new. I found a wealth of info on both forums and did not get into the "turf war" between the two boards. I just don't need that crap in my life any longer. I'm in the process of buying my second can, an AAC Evo-40. I made the decision based on info gathered on Silencertalk, other research and also due to the fact that my Class III dealer is an AAC dealer so I won't be paying an additional transfer fee. The suppressor area on the sigforum is up and coming and has the potential to be a good read especially where SIG pistols are concerned. I don't know what problems rsilvers had here in the past and I don't care. He was very informative via e-mail when I had "issues" with the mfg. of my CCF/Swiss suppressor. Let's all play nice.
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I run mine on a G35 with a Jarvis bbl (threaded 14.5x1mm LH Metric). I highly suggest getting the left-handed metric threading since it will be more resistant to unscrewing. I put 150 rounds through it in my first range session, and the can didn't back off at all. The Jarvis bbls are great, btw. Don't expect this thing to be uber quiet though---when a 180 grain slug traveling at 1000 fps hits something, you hear it! Next time I go to the range, I'm gonna try shooting at a distance so I can better distinguish between the muzzle blast and the bullet impact. ETA: Pic time 
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Thanks for the info. The 14.5x1mm LH is the thread pattern that I purchased. Shot the barrel this morning for the first time. Fit and function are 100%. After 240 rounds down range I would rate the accuracy as good as my G22 OEM bbl. |
I found that site usefull too. And I almost made the same mistake as you............posting it here  Don't sweat it, and thanks for trying to share
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first round pop is the oxygen in the can being burnt by the flaming gasses from the first round. some cans have this worse than others. My ETS crusader has almost none (95% of the time its not heard ,the once in a while it is heard its barely notiiceable). my form 1 9mm can has quite a bit. the new ETS gladius .223 can has some due to the large blast chamber to help with blow back. FRP can be a balancing act between crown eroision , FRP, blow back and can size. |
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