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Posted: 6/9/2015 7:06:37 PM EDT
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Has anyone tried these soft caps rather than a helmet ? Did you like them? I am considering one for mounting NV.
http://tnvc.com/shop/crye-precision-nightcap%E2%84%A2-nvg-platform/ |
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I think I will probably get one. Pretty comfortable and stable mounting ? Quoted:
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Yes, I've use one and it's my go to. One underrated benefit is the fact that it can be adjusted to fit any head size. I think I will probably get one. Pretty comfortable and stable mounting ? Yes. Not as stable as a TW bump helmet, but definitely good. |
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I went with the Nightcap simply because I really wanted a setup I could fit in a weapon case, and I could not fit a helmet in a weapon case. So, I'll preface this with saying that I have 0 experience with a helmet.
But, with that said, I haven't been too impressed with the nightcap. Just a standard PVS-14 is heavy enough that the Nightcap just doesn't support it enough. You have to cinch the damn thing down so hard that it's just barely (and I mean barely) more comfortable than a skull crusher. No matter where you adjust it, you have to make the thing insanely tight. And then even when you get it tightened down so hard that your face and skull are going numb, it's still not very stable (how could it be, it's cloth) so when you move your head around fast and such, the PVS dances around like a monkey. I had super high hopes for this thing, especially given the price vs. a helmet. But after a few hikes with it I'm over it. |
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And then even when you get it tightened down so hard that your face and skull are going numb, it's still not very stable (how could it be, it's cloth) so when you move your head around fast and such, the PVS dances around like a monkey. I had super high hopes for this thing, especially given the price vs. a helmet. But after a few hikes with it I'm over it. Go get a cheap $5 Condor pouch, get some double sided Velcro cable management strapping material, rig up a way to velcro the pouch to the Nightcap velcro, then add enough weight for a counterbalance. Because the Nightcap velcro is up at 45 degrees on the back, you need more weight than on a regular helmet with velcro flat on the rear. Profit? Gringop |
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I went with the Nightcap simply because I really wanted a setup I could fit in a weapon case, and I could not fit a helmet in a weapon case. So, I'll preface this with saying that I have 0 experience with a helmet. But, with that said, I haven't been too impressed with the nightcap. Just a standard PVS-14 is heavy enough that the Nightcap just doesn't support it enough. You have to cinch the damn thing down so hard that it's just barely (and I mean barely) more comfortable than a skull crusher. No matter where you adjust it, you have to make the thing insanely tight. And then even when you get it tightened down so hard that your face and skull are going numb, it's still not very stable (how could it be, it's cloth) so when you move your head around fast and such, the PVS dances around like a monkey. I had super high hopes for this thing, especially given the price vs. a helmet. But after a few hikes with it I'm over it. Have you tried it with a counterweight? I've used it exclusively w/ an EOG low profile short counterweight and haven't had any issues. No it doesn't stay absolutely put, but mine is damn comfortable and takes a half a second to readjust if needed. You can always pull the counterweight off if you want. Mine fits into my standard green NV bag with the counterweight attached no problem. |
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Have you tried it with a counterweight? I've used it exclusively w/ an EOG low profile short counterweight and haven't had any issues. No it doesn't stay absolutely put, but mine is damn comfortable and takes a half a second to readjust if needed. You can always pull the counterweight off if you want. Mine fits into my standard green NV bag with the counterweight attached no problem. Quoted:
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I went with the Nightcap simply because I really wanted a setup I could fit in a weapon case, and I could not fit a helmet in a weapon case. So, I'll preface this with saying that I have 0 experience with a helmet. But, with that said, I haven't been too impressed with the nightcap. Just a standard PVS-14 is heavy enough that the Nightcap just doesn't support it enough. You have to cinch the damn thing down so hard that it's just barely (and I mean barely) more comfortable than a skull crusher. No matter where you adjust it, you have to make the thing insanely tight. And then even when you get it tightened down so hard that your face and skull are going numb, it's still not very stable (how could it be, it's cloth) so when you move your head around fast and such, the PVS dances around like a monkey. I had super high hopes for this thing, especially given the price vs. a helmet. But after a few hikes with it I'm over it. Have you tried it with a counterweight? I've used it exclusively w/ an EOG low profile short counterweight and haven't had any issues. No it doesn't stay absolutely put, but mine is damn comfortable and takes a half a second to readjust if needed. You can always pull the counterweight off if you want. Mine fits into my standard green NV bag with the counterweight attached no problem. Do you attach the counterweight vertically or horizontally? Pics? |
| I have a nitecap that I mounted an anvis9 on . I did not use a counterweight and never had any issues. I am sure the strap going around the back fits better for some people than others, depending on the shape of your head. Basically the more the back of your head sticks out the better the back strap stays in place, keeping the goggles from riding down on your face. |
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I have a nitecap that I mounted an anvis9 on . I did not use a counterweight and never had any issues. I am sure the strap going around the back fits better for some people than others, depending on the shape of your head. Basically the more the back of your head sticks out the better the back strap stays in place, keeping the goggles from riding down on your face. To add to that, it's also crucial with duals that the strap going from your chin to the back of your head must be straight and as tight as possible and at the same time the topmost strap tightened so all the weight is transferred to your chin. I have not had problems with duals either. |
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Quoted:Go get a cheap $5 Condor pouch, get some double sided Velcro cable management strapping material, rig up a way to velcro the pouch to the Nightcap velcro, then add enough weight for a counterbalance. Because the Nightcap velcro is up at 45 degrees on the back, you need more weight than on a regular helmet with velcro flat on the rear.
Profit? Gringop Quoted:Go get a cheap $5 Condor pouch, get some double sided Velcro cable management strapping material, rig up a way to velcro the pouch to the Nightcap velcro, then add enough weight for a counterbalance. Because the Nightcap velcro is up at 45 degrees on the back, you need more weight than on a regular helmet with velcro flat on the rear.
Profit? Gringop Quoted:Have you tried it with a counterweight? I've used it exclusively w/ an EOG low profile short counterweight and haven't had any issues. No it doesn't stay absolutely put, but mine is damn comfortable and takes a half a second to readjust if needed. You can always pull the counterweight off if you want. Mine fits into my standard green NV bag with the counterweight attached no problem. I haven't tried a counterweight yet but that's an awesome suggestion. I'll try it out. I did go out and use it again last night to see if I could get a better fit and definitely got it a bit better than before. |
I've got a Night Cap and a Team Wendy Exfil. I don't have a bino set up, running single 14s on both head rigs. In the summer in the South, even as comfortable as the TW Exfil is, I prefer the Night Cap. I've got a big head (23 1/2", size 7 1/2 or 7 5/8) and once I got hte NC set up with an 8 or 10 ounce counterweight slung low over the rear, it works great. Is it absolutely as solid as the Exfil? No. Is it 15x as good as the skull crusher? Absolutely. The only thing that I felt was missing from the NC was a way to mount my Streamlight Sidewinder Compact II, so I added a short section of Magpul polymer pic rail to the side like this:
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I went with the Nightcap simply because I really wanted a setup I could fit in a weapon case, and I could not fit a helmet in a weapon case. So, I'll preface this with saying that I have 0 experience with a helmet. But, with that said, I haven't been too impressed with the nightcap. Just a standard PVS-14 is heavy enough that the Nightcap just doesn't support it enough. You have to cinch the damn thing down so hard that it's just barely (and I mean barely) more comfortable than a skull crusher. No matter where you adjust it, you have to make the thing insanely tight. And then even when you get it tightened down so hard that your face and skull are going numb, it's still not very stable (how could it be, it's cloth) so when you move your head around fast and such, the PVS dances around like a monkey. I had super high hopes for this thing, especially given the price vs. a helmet. But after a few hikes with it I'm over it. Have you tried it with a counterweight? I've used it exclusively w/ an EOG low profile short counterweight and haven't had any issues. No it doesn't stay absolutely put, but mine is damn comfortable and takes a half a second to readjust if needed. You can always pull the counterweight off if you want. Mine fits into my standard green NV bag with the counterweight attached no problem. Do you attach the counterweight vertically or horizontally? Pics? Here is mine, just imagine a rhino 2 mount on it painted in rattlecan camo. It works wonderfully. The counterweight is mounted horizontally as low as practically possible. IMHO one of the greatest NV accessories out there, I would not be without mine. 
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I have no helmet to compare to, been very happy with this setup, just a sidewinder, and an EDG battery case with six batteries make a fine ballast for a pvs14. I wear a hardhat all day that is much more irritating than this, plus with the summer heat I like the light feel. Gonna hafta try the rail space for the sidewinder, just been clipping mine on, good call 
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I have a Ops Core FAST base jump bump helmet that I think is pretty comfortable. Since I purchased the Crye Nightcap the base jump has sat on the shelf.
The night cap with a proper counterweight is cooler, lighter, and way more comfortable, especially for longer night hunts. The base jump provides better bump protection, a very slight edge in stability, and you can mount way more crap on it making it more versatile. For a low speed high drag guy like me, that means your neck gets sore after a couple of hours, your head hurts about the same time, and you'll have sweat running in your eyes much sooner. Unless you need bump protection, need to attach all kinds of lights or gizmos, or need integrated comms (I don't need any of that), nightcap for the win. |
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Love my nightcap. Its really nice for throwing in a go bag and taking places versus having to take a whole helmet. This. The bloody thing fits in a cargo pocket. Once properly adjusted, it is comfortable - not quite as stable as a full helmet like an OpsCore or TW, but works just fine for what I do. Way cooler in the summer months, and therefore way more comfortable. I use mine with Howard Leights connected to a radio for cheap comms/earpro when it's cool enough. Better value per dollar than the OpsCore, to be sure. I almost always use the nightcap. |
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This...love mine. Store a bunch of batteries as counterweight and it works great
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<a href="http://s34.photobucket.com/user/h8ulane/media/20150610_191859_zpslcngn1ts.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d125/h8ulane/20150610_191859_zpslcngn1ts.jpg</a> I have no helmet to compare to, been very happy with this setup, just a sidewinder, and an EDG battery case with six batteries make a fine ballast for a pvs14. I wear a hardhat all day that is much more irritating than this, plus with the summer heat I like the light feel. Gonna hafta try the rail space for the sidewinder, just been clipping mine on, good call |
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Did not read the full post. I love mine ! I have had every helmet and mount known to God and a few he may not know about. I don't care about melon protection. Wanted a stable lightweight head mount. The Nightcap has made me happy. It is all I use now.
A disclaimer is I use a helmet in the woods as it affords branch protection. Much of my night vision use is in the marine environment. No branches or much head injury possibilities. |
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Quick question for you guys with a night cap. Does it use the same length screws as it does for a helmet? I bought a ops core skeleton shroud that came off a helmet from the EE and it came with screws. Will they fit or will it need shorter screws?
I ordered a nightcap, but it won't be here probably for a week or so |
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Quoted: Quick question for you guys with a night cap. Does it use the same length screws as it does for a helmet? I bought a ops core skeleton shroud that came off a helmet from the EE and it came with screws. Will they fit or will it need shorter screws? I ordered a nightcap, but it won't be here probably for a week or so |
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<a href="http://s34.photobucket.com/user/h8ulane/media/20150610_191859_zpslcngn1ts.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d125/h8ulane/20150610_191859_zpslcngn1ts.jpg</a> I have no helmet to compare to, been very happy with this setup, just a sidewinder, and an EDG battery case with six batteries make a fine ballast for a pvs14. I wear a hardhat all day that is much more irritating than this, plus with the summer heat I like the light feel. Gonna hafta try the rail space for the sidewinder, just been clipping mine on, good call holy shit...I have at least 2 of those maxpedition retention devices as well as 2 from another brand...bought them because the free one with my work ID badge is the cheapest POS ever i never once considered using it as a pvs-14 retention device....blown 
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Typically, the shrouds come with two sizes of screws. Shorter set and a longer set. The shorter set is for non ballistic stuff, and the longer set is for ballistic. Use the shorter set for your night cap. Quoted:
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Quick question for you guys with a night cap. Does it use the same length screws as it does for a helmet? I bought a ops core skeleton shroud that came off a helmet from the EE and it came with screws. Will they fit or will it need shorter screws? I ordered a nightcap, but it won't be here probably for a week or so Crap it came w one set and Im guessing it's the long ones. Oh well. I should be able to find them at the hardware store hopefully or just cut them. |
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