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8/11/2009 5:28:22 PM EDT
im saving up for a dillon 650. what should i get with it, so far im gettin the trimmer with it. Thanks for the Imput
8/11/2009 5:55:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Case Feeder and Quick change out kits for the calibers that you want to reload.
8/11/2009 5:58:37 PM EDT
[#2]
i've also had some people tell me about a strong mount and tools and a parts kit
8/11/2009 6:08:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Get the strong mount.  Some say the roller handle, I did not and don't thank its necessary.  If you don't have a bunch of tools already, get the tools.  I got the parts kit and have not used it in 4 years.  You really want the case feeder.
Edit to add:  Powder Check Die !!!  My bench is 36" high and I stand to load, the strong mounts works for me.
8/11/2009 6:12:15 PM EDT
[#4]
I don't have a strong mount for mine. If I did it would position the press way too high for my bench. The casefeeder is mandatory. A 650 without a casefeeder is like a Lamborghini with a 50mph governor....I should know, I went without one for a long time.

Quick change kits aren't necessary, but you'll want extra tool heads and powder dies so you can have stuff already set up and just swap the powder measure over. I recommend the powder check die or something similar. Extra primer tubes are pretty much mandatory too. The primer tube filler gizmo would be nice, but IMO not nice enough to warrant spending the $300. If you're going to load rifle cartridges and don't already have them, buy case gauges(incidentally, anyone know where I can pick one up for 6.8 SPC?). Conversion kits, obviously, for whatever cartridges you intend to load other than the one it comes set up for. LOTS of powder, primers, and bullets.
8/11/2009 6:40:39 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Case Feeder and Quick change out kits for the calibers that you want to reload.


add a auto primer filler and your good to go..
8/11/2009 7:23:05 PM EDT
[#6]
damn id have to sell my ar for all that then i wouldnt need the dillon 650
8/11/2009 7:27:03 PM EDT
[#7]
I used the SDB before my 650 and picked the cheaper roller handle.  It is very worthwhile, as you do not need to adjust your grip, and there is no friction at all from your palm.

I got the quick change kits and powder measures for each of the main calibers.
8/11/2009 7:28:21 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Case Feeder and Quick change out kits for the calibers that you want to reload.


add a auto primer filler and your good to go..


Have they got the bugs worked out of the auto primer filler?  They used to be very finicky, along with very expensive.  Midway sells one from Frankford Arsenal, but I haven't tried one.  

8/11/2009 8:30:36 PM EDT
[#9]
don't get the auto fill.

My 650 is on my 35" bench, my roller handle is at 43.5" at the top it stroke and 24.5" at the bottom. The case feeder sits at 69"

I can load sitting or standing.
8/12/2009 5:25:34 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
im saving up for a dillon 650. what should i get with it, so far im gettin the trimmer with it. Thanks for the Imput


Skip the trimmer and get the possum trimmer. Its 1/10th the price and 4x faster. There is a guy on youtube that shows how to use it.......simple as pie . Then take the money you just saved and put it towards strong mount, dies or a case feeder.

8/12/2009 8:37:21 PM EDT
[#11]
What I would absolutely add:

Case feeder – you can get it now or suffer a while before you throw in the towel, but you will get one ultimately.

Powder check die.

The Dillon open end wrench for the dies (it’s cheap and fits in between the dies easily, unlike a regular wrench).

And very nice to have:

Strong mount (if you can live with the extra height).

Roller handle.

If you’re going to be loading any rifle cartridges like the .223, an extra toolhead is handy.
8/12/2009 9:15:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Depends how much $$ you got or want to spend?

Alot of people like the strong mount, Personally, unless your desk is REALLY short, or you plan on standing while reloading, I don't see any reason to buy it.   I built my reloading bench for $30 from plans online, it was custom sized and solid as a rock.   But if you need it, it's not too expensive.

The Case feeder while EXTREMELY nice to have, it's pricy and can be bought any time.   Personally it'll take you ahwile to get everything setup and adjusted and untill you got everything setup just the way you want, you wont be cranking out ammo by the hundreds anyway so you don't need the case feeder right away.   Even with out the case feeder in full production it's still pretty fast and very doable.

While the Quick Change kits are not required to change from one cal to another, it'll make your life 10x easier and allow you to have a tool head set up with powder measurer for each cal you reload.   I Highly suggest you get a Quick change kit for each cal, because it's a bit cheaper than buying everything that comes in the kit separetly and you will likely end up buying everything seperatly if you don't buy it all in the kit to begin with!

I advise to get LOTS of primer pickup tubes. Atleast 10.

You didn't say if this is your first press or not?  But if you don't already have dies then buy GOOD DIES!  Buy Redding, Hornady, RCBS, Dillon Dies.  Stay away from Lee Rifle dies, Lee's pistol dies are OK.  Buy Dillon's Case gauge for each Cal you are going to reload (Why Dillon?  Because they are Stainless Steel and about the same price as other brands).  

Lot's of people like the powder check die, I think it's useless and does nothing but cause you to be lazy and depend on it instead of being a responsible reloader and check your power drops manually.

The tool holder is a nice option, it keeps your allen wrenches and die nut wrench handy at all times (Assuming you put all your tools back), much easier than trying to track down tools all over your work bench.

The roller handle is pointless unless you gorilla grip your handle.  I put the ball between my first and 2nd finger and rotate the handle.  I just see no usefull reason to have a roller handle.


Quoted:
Skip the trimmer and get the possum trimmer. Its 1/10th the price and 4x faster. There is a guy on youtube that shows how to use it.......simple as pie . Then take the money you just saved and put it towards strong mount, dies or a case feeder.


That's HORRABLE advice and simpily NOT true.   While the possum trimmer is a good MANUAL trimmer (Even if it's chucked into a drill it's still MANUAL), there's no way on god's green earth it's anywhere NEAR as fast as Dillon's power trimmer, much less 4x faster!!     However the possum trimmer wouldn't be a bad idea to save money just to get started, then later buy the Dillon Power Trimmer.     The power trimmer is DEFINITLY the way to go, but doesn't have to be right away.

Just my $0.02.

-Masta
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