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11/13/2016 7:31:34 PM EDT
I have a trust that I made via Silencer Shop (easy trust) but it didn't come with a form to remove a trustee. With the new regulations I'd rather not have to get my other trustees fingerprints since they don't use the NFA items anyways. Is there a form for this?

Edit - I am in Texas if that makes a difference in needing a notary.
11/14/2016 3:00:56 PM EDT
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I would think that as the grantor of the trust, you could make an amendment page stating that you wish to remove trustees X, Y, and Z from the trust and sign it, then maybe mark through references to them in the rest of the document and initial/date the mark throughs, but I am not a lawyer and I would like to hear what a lawyer would say, as I had the same question about adding a trustee later.
11/14/2016 4:00:48 PM EDT
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Basically I just did an amendment removing a trustee, dated and signed, no notary needed since you are the owner of the trust.  I did not mark up the original as the previous poster said, but that is a great idea.  My trust is with my holographic will and only one trusted person has access.  That being said, should I do any more NFA I will go the individual route, will states who gets all firearms related stuff.
11/14/2016 11:52:53 PM EDT
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I would think that as the grantor of the trust, you could make an amendment page stating that you wish to remove trustees X, Y, and Z from the trust and sign it, then maybe mark through references to them in the rest of the document and initial/date the mark throughs, but I am not a lawyer and I would like to hear what a lawyer would say, as I had the same question about adding a trustee later.
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Please do not do that.

Leave the original trust alone. Add the amendment behind the last page of the trust.




This is somewhat correct. You need to have witnesses at the very least for an amendment. I would recommend a notary, but I don't know your state's law so I'm suggesting the "belt and suspenders" approach as it should be safe enough to be valid.
11/14/2016 11:54:30 PM EDT
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I have a trust that I made via Silencer Shop (easy trust) but it didn't come with a form to remove a trustee. With the new regulations I'd rather not have to get my other trustees fingerprints since they don't use the NFA items anyways. Is there a form for this?

Edit - I am in Texas if that makes a difference in needing a notary.
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You can belt out something on Word. There shouldn't be a need for special forms.
11/15/2016 12:13:24 AM EDT
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Basically I just did an amendment removing a trustee, dated and signed, no notary needed since you are the owner of the trust.  I did not mark up the original as the previous poster said, but that is a great idea. My trust is with my holographic will and only one trusted person has access.  That being said, should I do any more NFA I will go the individual route, will states who gets all firearms related stuff.
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I would make sure that's copacetic with TX law. That seems fishy to me.

It's great until someone has to read through all your chicken scratch. Also is that a recognized way to do things in TX? I wouldn't want you to fuck stuff up.
11/15/2016 2:41:26 PM EDT
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Really need a lawyer in Texas to chime in. I'm in Texas as well.
11/15/2016 3:04:16 PM EDT
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Trust amendment procedure is State specific and fact specific.  In some States you could potentially also need the consent of the trust beneficiaries.  Consult a competent in State Gun Trust lawyer.
11/16/2016 10:56:10 AM EDT
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Trust amendment procedure is State specific and fact specific.  In some States you could potentially also need the consent of the trust beneficiaries.  Consult a competent in State Gun Trust lawyer.
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That's actually going to be more dependent on your trust language than your state law
11/16/2016 10:56:27 AM EDT
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Trust amendment procedure is State specific and fact specific.  In some States you could potentially also need the consent of the trust beneficiaries.  Consult a competent in State Gun Trust lawyer.
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That's actually going to be more dependent on your trust language than your state law
11/16/2016 11:30:57 AM EDT
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That's actually going to be more dependent on your trust language than your state law
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Trust amendment procedure is State specific and fact specific.  In some States you could potentially also need the consent of the trust beneficiaries.  Consult a competent in State Gun Trust lawyer.


That's actually going to be more dependent on your trust language than your state law


If the trust language does not comport with State law you can end up with an invalid amendment and potentially invalid trust.  Going cheap is not always the best course of action.
11/16/2016 1:13:18 PM EDT
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Well I ended up doing what I should've done in the first place and just emailed Silencer Shop (where I bought the trust) and they sent me the form. Guess it didn't get included in my original purchase for some reason.
11/16/2016 11:54:51 PM EDT
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If the trust language does not comport with State law you can end up with an invalid amendment and potentially invalid trust. Going cheap is not always the best course of action.
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Trust amendment procedure is State specific and fact specific.  In some States you could potentially also need the consent of the trust beneficiaries.  Consult a competent in State Gun Trust lawyer.


That's actually going to be more dependent on your trust language than your state law


If the trust language does not comport with State law you can end up with an invalid amendment and potentially invalid trust. Going cheap is not always the best course of action.



If your state's trust code forces a Settlor to have the permission of the Beneficiaries in order to amend by default, that's clown shoes.

OP bought a trust from a non-lawyer

11/17/2016 4:12:38 PM EDT
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If your state's trust code forces a Settlor to have the permission of the Beneficiaries in order to amend by default, that's clown shoes.

OP bought a trust from a non-lawyer

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Which states require that?  I am a lawyer and have never heard of that requirement?
11/17/2016 5:27:33 PM EDT
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Which states require that?  I am a lawyer and have never heard of that requirement?
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If your state's trust code forces a Settlor to have the permission of the Beneficiaries in order to amend by default, that's clown shoes.

OP bought a trust from a non-lawyer




Which states require that?  I am a lawyer and have never heard of that requirement?

I'm a lawyer as well. I was trying to explain that the trust language is a bigger concern than the law in that type of situation.
11/19/2016 12:47:40 AM EDT
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I have a trust that I made via Silencer Shop (easy trust) but it didn't come with a form to remove a trustee. With the new regulations I'd rather not have to get my other trustees fingerprints since they don't use the NFA items anyways. Is there a form for this?



Edit - I am in Texas if that makes a difference in needing a notary.
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I use my Credit Union for any Notary needs, you might want to check your bank, they should have a Notary, usually someone in the Mortgage Dept. Get the amendment notarized for your peace of mind. Like others have said, use an amendment form, don't muck up the original.



 
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