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5/30/2006 2:43:21 PM EDT
Due to some recent issues I haven't gotten to spend my "new rifle fund" yet, I was going to pick up a AR but after seeing the new FS2000 I'm thinking FN.

Has anyone fired one of these at a show or something?
5/30/2006 3:51:50 PM EDT
[#1]
If you don't own an AR yet, get the AR first. If you already have an AR, I say try one and buy it if you like it.
5/30/2006 4:23:14 PM EDT
[#2]
I held both the FN2000 and I like it.  They are also developing a front end that has a light in it with touchpad activation.  It is fuctionally ergonimic like an AR.  I also took a look at the P90 and did NOT like it.  Mag removal takes too long.  But the FN2000 is sweet.  The drawback is that you do not have all the calibres available that you have in an AR.
5/30/2006 4:26:30 PM EDT
[#3]
When are they releasing the light integrated forend? And I thought the FS2000 used the same rounds and mags as an AR?
5/30/2006 4:28:32 PM EDT
[#4]
Get an AR First.  They are cheaper.  This thing will be in high thousands.  I think around 1700 or more.

Max
5/30/2006 4:39:46 PM EDT
[#5]

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And I thought the FS2000 used the same rounds and mags as an AR?

Correct.
5/30/2006 4:53:44 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm not too worried about the price.

I can see it now...two FS2000's with laser sights


I've got it narrowed down to a POF piston AR, or the FS2000, having trouble deciding, leaning toward the AR though.
5/30/2006 4:59:45 PM EDT
[#7]

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And I thought the FS2000 used the same rounds and mags as an AR?

Correct.



i think he is talking about after market non 5.56/.223  uppers.  An easy switch on an AR, does anyone know how that will work on the FN?
5/30/2006 5:27:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Is it safe to fire a FS2000 and PS90 without hearing protection?
5/30/2006 5:42:08 PM EDT
[#9]

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Is it safe to fire a FS2000 and PS90 without hearing protection?



Why do you think it might be?
5/30/2006 5:44:22 PM EDT
[#10]

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Is it safe to fire a FS2000 and PS90 without hearing protection?



Why do you think it might be?



The P90 sounded really quiet in a video I saw. (and no, the valume wasn't low )
5/30/2006 5:50:56 PM EDT
[#11]
go FN. If you have an AR already or not.
5/30/2006 5:57:34 PM EDT
[#12]
If I could get a FS2000 with the flashlight in the handguard I'd probably go that route.
5/30/2006 6:20:00 PM EDT
[#13]

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Quoted:

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Is it safe to fire a FS2000 and PS90 without hearing protection?



Why do you think it might be?



The P90 sounded really quiet in a video I saw. (and no, the valume wasn't low )



Most cameras only record a certain decible of sound.  I have plenty of videos of me shooting an AR or a .308 and its sounds like a .22 going off.  

You can shoot any gun without hearing protection, but noone i know isn't that stupid.
5/30/2006 7:49:22 PM EDT
[#14]

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Is it safe to fire a FS2000 and PS90 without hearing protection?



Why do you think it might be?



The P90 sounded really quiet in a video I saw. (and no, the valume wasn't low )



The P90 should be about as load as a 22lr to a 22 Mag, + /- a little.

The FS2000 will be as load as any other 5.56 weapon with a bbl of that length.
5/31/2006 3:50:28 PM EDT
[#15]
My PS90 sounds slightly louder than 22LR when fired.
5/31/2006 9:44:18 PM EDT
[#16]

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Quoted:

Quoted:
Is it safe to fire a FS2000 and PS90 without hearing protection?



Why do you think it might be?



The P90 sounded really quiet in a video I saw. (and no, the valume wasn't low )



Not to be an ass man, but maybe you should start with a .22


Money or not a $2k gun just ain't a good starter rifle.

If money is really NOT an issue - then go ahead and buy an AR and see how you like it. The FS2000 is likely a few months out till the first ones drop - let alone till you can get one if you aren't in line.

If money IS in any way an issue - well....................... a $2k unproven, untested, new manufacture starter gun is an incredibly poor choice.
5/31/2006 11:02:08 PM EDT
[#17]
I never said it was a starter gun.

Quiet to me is a .22, that is why I thought the P90 sounded quiet.
5/31/2006 11:56:45 PM EDT
[#18]

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I never said it was a starter gun.

Quiet to me is a .22, that is why I thought the P90 sounded quiet.




I guess I just assume that it is common knowledge even a .22 will cause significant/serious hearing damage.

If you don't believe me ask all the "tough guys" who fire the quiet .22 without hearing protection. (Probably have to ask them a few times).


Seriously man - welcome to the gun world and welcome to ARFcom. But if you are asking if you need to wear hearing protection when firing a 5.56 rifle...........................

You should do some more research at the very least.
6/1/2006 1:44:52 AM EDT
[#19]
FWIW when firing the PS90, it sounds like a .22LR
However, if you stand next to someone shooting the PS90, it sounds like a slightly muffled .223. It has the same sharp crack.

Ear protection is highly recommended.

Some say the PS90's extra barrel length helps burn up all the gases... I found my PS90 to be rather filthy after only 200rd. The breech block can't be detailed stripped on a regular basis w/o a supply of replacement rollpins in case something happens.
6/1/2006 2:46:35 AM EDT
[#20]
If used as a home defense weapon, I want the quietest I can get, because I might not be able to get to hearing protection or want it in certain situations.
6/1/2006 2:59:47 AM EDT
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If used as a home defense weapon, I want the quietest I can get, because I might not be able to get to hearing protection or want it in certain situations.



If you are talking self defense, I would not worry about hearing protection, you just deal with the consequences of shooting indoors.  Not something you should be having to do everyday.  

As far as spending some money on an AR, get a LMT Monolithic Upper, change barrels out lickety-split.
6/2/2006 12:50:37 PM EDT
[#22]

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If used as a home defense weapon, I want the quietest I can get, because I might not be able to get to hearing protection or want it in certain situations.



If you are talking self defense, I would not worry about hearing protection, you just deal with the consequences of shooting indoors.  Not something you should be having to do everyday.   As far as spending some money on an AR, get a LMT Monolithic Upper, change barrels out lickety-split.



If you have to kill someone in your own home, you will be so high on adrenaline that you won't focus much on the sound of the gunshot. If you want a self defense weapon, get something that has had some time to prove it's reliable. Geez, just buy a frickin shotgun. A 12 gauge with .00 buck says dead intruder 100% of the time

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