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1/31/2009 5:17:01 PM EDT
I know to be safe you should work up all loads for all rifles, even when switching canisters. My question is how much below max are factory loads to be safe in any gun?  How safe would it be for friends to try my mass plinking loads  that are far below max in their rifles?
1/31/2009 7:11:56 PM EDT
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Quoted:
I know to be safe you should work up all loads for all rifles, even when switching canisters. My question is how much below max are factory loads to be safe in any gun?  How safe would it be for friends to try my mass plinking loads  that are far below max in their rifles?


Factory loads have been crafted to meet velocity/pressure needs.  They are not wimpy, per se.

Handloads have been designed to be under PSIA.

What rounds/loads are you thinking of "handing" out.

Unless you have access to pressure testing equipment, using your chronograph and recording velocities* are a good tool to use.

* Most of the time, if your handloads are getting muzzle velocity more than 2% over factory ammo, you are over pressure.
1/31/2009 7:32:22 PM EDT
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Quoted:
I know to be safe you should work up all loads for all rifles, even when switching canisters. My question is how much below max are factory loads to be safe in any gun?  How safe would it be for friends to try my mass plinking loads  that are far below max in their rifles?


First it's not good to reload for other poeple, for many reasons. I let others use my presses to make there rounds. For plinking loads I use 5 to 10% less powder for 223 Remington. Some powders had a low limit on powder weight.. That's IMHO

Mike
1/31/2009 7:49:25 PM EDT
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Unless you measure pressure, don't think max loads are factory loads.  Many factory loads are LESS than maximum even considering the highest recorded pressures based on the 6 sigma statistics.

And velocities are never a good measure of pressure.

You are responsible for the safety of your reloads.  Even if you friends have the exact same brand, type and lot of rifle as you, are you sure they are your friends?  Do you want them to become the pawn of a shithead lawyer and have your savings, retirement and property confiscated?  Because there ARE lawyers out there willing to try.

Arock was a friend of several members here.  And while the falling out wasn't with reloaded ammo or even firearms, it just shows ANYONE can change.

2/1/2009 4:37:50 AM EDT
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so im curious, for no reason other then curiosity, what and how the factories pressures and velocities are determined safe for all rifles.
With that kind of liability i guess i wont complain about the high price of ammo anymore.  thanks for the good advice and replies.
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