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Posted: 3/5/2010 6:20:57 PM EDT
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Received my first M1 from the CMP today. Serial 2940XX
First things I noticed, the rear handguard is cracked and the front handguard does not fit tight. It appears to be about 1/8 too short which causes the whole assembly to have a lot of play in it. So any suggestions as to the handguards? Will CMP replace the cracked rear handguard ? 
More can be found here : Garand Photos I'll try to get better ones during the day tomorrow. |
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It is good that the handguard is loose- both need to be loose for acceptable accuracy. I had to do a good bit of sanding on both the front and rear guards on my CMP rifle when I got it. If the guards are tight(no play at all) your POI will shift as the wood furniture heats up.
Is your rear guard tight(you should have a business card thickness of play)? Mine has a similar crack that was repaired... I always assumed it was from being too tight. I had lots of help from the guys at surplusrifle.com. Search their M1 forum and you'll find lots of info on stock fitting. |
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Received my first M1 from the CMP today. Serial 2940XX First things I noticed, the rear handguard is cracked and the front handguard does not fit tight. It appears to be about 1/8 too short which causes the whole assembly to have a lot of play in it. So any suggestions as to the handguards? Will CMP replace the cracked rear handguard ? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/Garand/DLC_3975a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/Garand/DLC_3980a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/Garand/DLC_3962a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/Garand/DLC_3969a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/Garand/DLC_3944a.jpg More can be found here : Garand Photos I'll try to get better ones during the day tomorrow. Is is a racker? "Rack Grade Rifles. Most of these rifles have been refinished or rebuilt at least once while in military service and will likely have some parts from other manufacturers. Rifle wear will be exhibited by worn and mixed colors of the finish; there may be some minor pitting on the metal parts; wood will be basically sound but may be well used with minor hairline cracks, poor fit, and many dings, scratches and gouges; wood may not match in color, type of wood or condition. These rifles may have some foreign parts and wood may be Walnut, Birch, Beech or other variety. Rifles do not have import marks. Bores will be generally good with only minor imperfections; the barrel crown may be nicked, and the muzzle may gauge more than “3” on muzzle gauge. The Throat Erosion will gauge more than “5”The overall appearance and condition of the rack grade will generally be rougher than any other grade. Fair condition." Basically, you ORDER a racker, you GET a racker. You want nice,tight fit, good wood, then you need to order a Service Grade. |
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Received my first M1 from the CMP today. Serial 2940XX First things I noticed, the rear handguard is cracked and the front handguard does not fit tight. It appears to be about 1/8 too short which causes the whole assembly to have a lot of play in it. So any suggestions as to the handguards? Will CMP replace the cracked rear handguard ? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/Garand/DLC_3975a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/Garand/DLC_3980a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/Garand/DLC_3962a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/Garand/DLC_3969a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/Garand/DLC_3944a.jpg More can be found here : Garand Photos I'll try to get better ones during the day tomorrow. Is is a racker? "Rack Grade Rifles. Most of these rifles have been refinished or rebuilt at least once while in military service and will likely have some parts from other manufacturers. Rifle wear will be exhibited by worn and mixed colors of the finish; there may be some minor pitting on the metal parts; wood will be basically sound but may be well used with minor hairline cracks, poor fit, and many dings, scratches and gouges; wood may not match in color, type of wood or condition. These rifles may have some foreign parts and wood may be Walnut, Birch, Beech or other variety. Rifles do not have import marks. Bores will be generally good with only minor imperfections; the barrel crown may be nicked, and the muzzle may gauge more than “3” on muzzle gauge. The Throat Erosion will gauge more than “5”The overall appearance and condition of the rack grade will generally be rougher than any other grade. Fair condition." Basically, you ORDER a racker, you GET a racker. You want nice,tight fit, good wood, then you need to order a Service Grade. Nope, I ordered a SA Service Grade. The finish on the parts is actually better then what shows in the pics. Is a pretty even black color, with most parts matching. The artificial light and my poor macro photo skills shows the colors bad. |
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If it were mine I would repair that myself. They have excellent customer service at the CMP. Contact them and attach a copy of that pic to your e-mail. They will take care of you. I shot an email off to CMP about it. What steps would you take to repair it ? |
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the rear hand guard will be tight because of the clip that it is attached to the barrel , the front should be loose because it slides on. if it isn't loose it can affect accuracy. You should be able to slide the rear guard a short distance back and forth. If you cant it is too tight. |
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I detect not movement in the rear HG. The front HG is where all the movement is. There is a small gap between the receiver and the HG.
Most of the metal on this one is in great shape. The only pieces to show real wear are as follows : Bullet guide - almost all of the finish is gone Follower Rod - has a spot worn off at the bend Gas cylinder lock screw/ gas cylinder - pretty worn The receiver is a 1941 vintage with a 6-52 barrel, so guessing it went through a rebuild at some point. |
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Refinishers on Dick Culvers' Garand Board:
http://www.jouster.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3 should be able to help you. New handguards are cheap enough, though replacing them can be pain. I'd try steaming the crack to get the wood to swell, and use some wood putty to fill in the minor crack. Sand, refinish, and it should be fine. Even a quick steam, a very slight dribble of super glue, sand/stain/refinish might fix it too. Don't be too obsessive. If you are, send it back for one of their "As-New" Special Grades and fork out the extra $$$ to get a prettier gun. But it may not shoot any better. 
Here's a little art for you: CMP Service Grade 1953 Springfield Wanna shooter or a safe queen? |
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Refinishers on Dick Culvers' Garand Board: http://www.jouster.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3 should be able to help you. New handguards are cheap enough, though replacing them can be pain. I'd try steaming the crack to get the wood to swell, and use some wood putty to fill in the minor crack. Sand, refinish, and it should be fine. Even a quick steam, a very slight dribble of super glue, sand/stain/refinish might fix it too. Don't be too obsessive. If you are, send it back for one of their "As-New" Special Grades and fork out the extra $$$ to get a prettier gun. But it may not shoot any better.http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/drshame/Post%20War%20Garand/DSC_0023.jpg Here's a little art for you: CMP Service Grade 1953 Springfield Wanna shooter or a safe queen? Was actually surprised at the finish of the metal, I expected a lot worse. The cracked handguard is the only thing that really bothers me, yeah it isn't big, but just don't want it to grow. Was not looking for a safe queen with a Service Grade. worst case, I buy another HG. |
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Received my first M1 from the CMP today. Serial 2940XX I can understand editing serial number photos from private purchases, but why hide serial numbers from CMP purchases? You're obviously the first owner. Same reason, I don't post my license plate online. Habit. |
| When you completely disassemble your M1 to clean and lube it before firing, you'll be able to open that crack a bit and glue it from the back side. It's no big deal. If you want to fill that gouge, mix some walnut sawdust with epoxy and fill it. Even though some brands of wood putty claim to be stainable, I've never found any that is. You can mine the sawdust from the buttstock compartments. |
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