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4/3/2013 7:24:47 AM EDT
I am a total noob to reloading, however I have read a number of manuals. I'm prepping some .45acp cases to load . I'm using CCI #500 primers , Power Pistol , under 185grn. Nosler JHP's (all I could find ).

Now my quandary; as I look at Lyman #49 , Hornady 9th, Alliant Powder website they are all using large pistol primers starting loads vary from 6.1 gr.(Hrndy) , 7.4gr. (Lymn), to 8.55 (Alliant site), nearly 2.5 gr.

seem like a lot of variance between the three reliable sources. I've been known to overthink things , maybe just looking for some veteran words of confidence. Probably start in the middle area w/Lyman.

Thanks
4/3/2013 7:49:50 AM EDT
[#1]
you need large pistol primers not small for starters, CCI 500s are small

someone else will be along to straighten out the powder questions as im no expert on that

4/3/2013 7:50:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Not having any reloading manuals at my desk at work, I must ask - was all of the testing done in an actual pistol, or was some done in a universal receiver?  If all was done in pistols, I would try a few  (10-15) rounds at the lowest powder charge and see if it will function my pistol.  If it will, that's all you need for plinking with that bullet weight.    That may not be the most accurate load for that powder and bullet combo, and you will doubtless want to tweak things as you progress.  Remember, speed (velocity) is fine, but accuracy is final.

If 6.1 grains doesn't function your gun, load a few heavier charges and try them.  I'd probably go something like 6.1, 6.5, 7.0 and 7.5  grains of powder.
4/3/2013 7:57:50 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
you need large pistol primers not small for starters, CCI 500s are small

someone else will be along to straighten out the powder questions as im no expert on that



Why would you assume that since he has CCI 500's that he isn't loading small primer .45acp ?

I've 1 buddy that only loads small primer .45acp
4/3/2013 8:01:57 AM EDT
[#4]
To clarify , yes it is small primer brass .

EDIT: good point Bog_Irish, the Hornady was tested in 1911- 5" , Lyman states a universal receiver 5" , no info on the Alliant test , that's why I asked
4/3/2013 8:03:10 AM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:



Quoted:

you need large pistol primers not small for starters, CCI 500s are small



someone else will be along to straighten out the powder questions as im no expert on that







Why would you assume that since he has CCI 500's that he isn't loading small primer .45acp ?



I've 1 buddy that only loads small primer .45acp


I only load SP .45 so I never have to change my 650's priming setup.  I load 45, 9mm and .223 on it.

 
4/3/2013 8:19:47 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
you need large pistol primers not small for starters, CCI 500s are small

someone else will be along to straighten out the powder questions as im no expert on that



Why would you assume that since he has CCI 500's that he isn't loading small primer .45acp ?

I've 1 buddy that only loads small primer .45acp


i honestly just learned that there is such a thing, when i googled it it came up as large, I don't reload this round so was not aware there could be 2 dif. primers
4/3/2013 8:37:37 AM EDT
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I've been known to overthink things , maybe just looking for some veteran words of confidence. Probably start in the middle area w/Lyman.

Thanks




Fear not!

Take all the data and write it down showing the starting values, max loads and accuracy load or other load info provided.  This will give you some insight into the spectrum of loading data you are concerned with.  Look it over to get some sense of where they overlap - that's where you want to focus your efforts.

Unless you want purposefully light loads, the starting load end of the spectrum is not where you will do your work.  You can "start" there, but you should quickly move to a more moderate load.  

Don't flirt with the top end until you have explored the middle range with live fire of YOUR reloads in YOUR pistol.



Anyway, those are my thoughts.  I hope they help.
4/3/2013 10:36:05 AM EDT
[#8]




Quoted:



Quoted:

I've been known to overthink things , maybe just looking for some veteran words of confidence. Probably start in the middle area w/Lyman.



Thanks

Fear not!



Take all the data and write it down showing the starting values, max loads and accuracy load or other load info provided. This will give you some insight into the spectrum of loading data you are concerned with. Look it over to get some sense of where they overlap - that's where you want to focus your efforts.



Unless you want purposefully light loads, the starting load end of the spectrum is not where you will do your work. You can "start" there, but you should quickly move to a more moderate load.



Don't flirt with the top end until you have explored the middle range with live fire of YOUR reloads in YOUR pistol.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. I hope they help.


Good post, what I was going to say.



I can add, reloading manuals are a report of what happened with these componets, gun, test equipment, and these people doing the testing on this day.



Not... this is the only thing that will work. Load data is often different. Go for the average.



You will very seldom find the exact components of a load and use the same gun as tested, but that's ok.



Which is why a "start" load is given. It where you start loading (powder charge) and work up from there.



Good luck.

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