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Posted: 10/26/2004 8:43:28 PM EDT
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ok, so back when i was first looking for a pistol, this one sparked some interest mainly due to its capacity(20 rounds) and the ballistics of the load. now with the AWB in retreat, i cm able to get the 20 round mags correct? and the price of 750-800$ new is not so unreasonable sounding to me as it used to be. i have yet to actually tinker with one of these in person, so i am asking for some input from those who have, especially anyone who owns one or has shot one before. i am well aware that the ammo comes out to 45 cents a round on ammo man, and i will try and offset that cost by reloading the rounds once i have enough brass.... any input is greatly appreciated thanks |
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http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_144_24/ai_57886949/pg_2 i saw here that the caliber was ruled as a "It's too bad that the cartridge isn't publically available, but it has been ruled to he "non-sporting" by ATF and can only be sold to agencies, just like the guns." however ammoman has them for sale... was this ruleing repealed? i dont want a gun that i cant get ammo for  |
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The gun is now available to civilians, but its SS190 armor-piercing ammo isn't. SS192 hollowpoints are. There was a report here that these can go through some vests. Cheapest I've found is about $17 per box of 50. 20-round mags should be available, but I can't find them anywhere; latest I heard is end of Oct. at my local gun shop. |
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Magazine discussion: FiveSeven Question Word of warning, there are two types of hicaps out there. One that will activate the magazine disconnect & one that won't. I had to remove my mag disconnect in order to use the hicaps. My buddy received a different style magazine & he didn't have deactivate the mag disconnect. |
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ok, main concern here is. 1.) will this caliber ever go away and i be stuck with a gun that has verry rare ammo? 2.) is the caliber tried and true yet? i reada few reviews of people trashing the 5.7x28mm because it resembeles a 22 in size. I would be useing this to replace my sig 220 as my primary home defenseweapon. i like the fact that the bullets wont over penetrate because i live in a closely packed neighborhood, so that would cut down on possible litigation if i were ot ever have to use the gun. what do you guys think about the 5.7x28mm ammo? the gun itself? |
| Hollowpoints ONLY!!!!!!!!! The standard ball ammo is still tightly controlled as it defeats body armor, this was explained to me by the agent who runs the local ATF office. I guess knowone in government bothered to check the fact the CZ-52 and Tokarev with HP loads easily defeats Class 2 body armor and they've been imported for years!!!!! |
| It is possible to reload but the dies I have seen are real expensive and special order and take a long time to get. I think Midway has them for special order. I get my ammo from a local guy and it's the best price I've seen by far. He has no problem getting it as well. |
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annything else you can tell me about the gun? i would like to be alle to shoot it, or at least hold it before i buy it... just so i know it fits my hand and shoots comfortably.... annyways, thanks for the info. edit: how is the duribility of this gun? has it ever jamed? whatabout replacement parts, say one does break? |
JR www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=10865 |
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I got mine this week but haven't shot it yet. $699 from cdnn w/3 10rnders. Ammo: Reeds - $350 for 1000 (.35 a round) - hollowpoints SS192. Mags: Ordered some from CMMG - hopefully they are IOM 20rnders, which means you don't have to mess with the mag disconnect.   The above pics compare the 5.7 SS192 to .223 I call it "minime" |
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