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7/1/2016 11:28:41 AM EDT
Hey guys,

I'm starting to look into long term storage of my dad's firearms, he's starting to get older and not hunting anymore so I want to preserve them as best as possible. They are currently kept in a safe but I want to keep them preserved without having to check on them.

I started doing a little research and several things popped up such as Cosmoline (which I don't want to use), ZCORR vacuum bags, Brownells Triple Tough storage bags and it hit me why don't I just vacuum seal everything in freezer bags? I feel like the other storage bags are a good idea but won't freezer bags do the same thing?

Anyone out there ever contemplated this idea or is there a specific reason to stay away from this idea?

7/1/2016 11:45:08 AM EDT
[#1]
I believe it is a bad idea.  You are placing a steel item in an impermeable barrier.  Everything is locked in with it.  Corrosion is the result.

Now, if protectected by cosmoline, or its home made equivalent, no problem.

It is hard to beat cosmoline, or cosmoline equivalents.
7/1/2016 11:53:57 AM EDT
[#2]
I would just stick with some oil on the guns and the guns in gun socks.  Ive got guns as old as/older than me that hardly even got that treatment and they are still flawlessly clean.


But if youre that worried about it, as far as vacuum sealing with freezer bags goes, I have to question how long the bag would actually hold up and stay sealed.  Id worry about the guns possibly puncturing the bags over time, which could probably be solved if you wrapped the gun in something first.  But then Id worry about the seal of the bag staying sealed for long enough to make the whole thing worth it.  I have a vacuum sealer (Ive never used it for anything involving guns, or even very long term storage uses), but Ive wondered how long one of those bags would actually stay sealed if left alone for a long time.

If you really want to vacuum seal guns, Id probably just stick with doing it using stuff that was actually made for that intention.
7/1/2016 12:34:55 PM EDT
[#3]
A clean gun in a gun sock in the safe inside the house is fine.



I have antique guns from the 1800s as well as my dads 22s he got as a kid in the 1940s that have had no special storage and are in excellent condition. For 30 years some of the guns were in an open air gun rack on the wall at parents house. Never got anything but dusted off, but they never developed any rust or ill effect. I still have my first 30-06 hunting rifle I bought back in 1977, a Rem 742. With no special care but kept clean and in a closet, it is still in perfect condition. Nowdays all guns are in socks and in safes. I doubt they will ever deteriorate if kept clean before storing.



A much more valid concern would be how and where to store guns (and mags) that might be affected by a gun ban (if your an outlaw that is).
7/1/2016 12:36:29 PM EDT
[#4]
I use silicone treated gun socks for long term storage.  No rust issues whatsoever.
7/1/2016 1:07:58 PM EDT
[#5]
Goldenrod and a dehu in the safe to boot.
7/1/2016 1:38:03 PM EDT
[#6]
The preservation bags you mentioned in the OP are great for long term storage, but that's a months or years range of time. They are not for short term storage if you plan on using the guns in the meantime.
7/1/2016 3:59:47 PM EDT
[#7]
I'll just stick with the gun sock idea and just clean & oil one at a time then throw a sock on it (maybe a dehu). At this time I just can't justify spending $22/bag x how many guns. I'll probably never shoot any of them again, there is a few that I might but the majority are hard to find calibers.

Thanks for all the info!
7/2/2016 9:27:14 AM EDT
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I'll just stick with the gun sock idea and just clean & oil one at a time then throw a sock on it (maybe a dehu). At this time I just can't justify spending $22/bag x how many guns. I'll probably never shoot any of them again, there is a few that I might but the majority are hard to find calibers.

Thanks for all the info!
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IMHO.... a gunsock could attract moisture and retain it.... causing rust.

VCI bags can be bought for far less then retail.

http://www.44mag.com/category/vci_long_term_storage_bags

http://www.polygunbag.com/gunbags.html


While VCI is not a perfect 10+ year storage option.... it is easy.  I change my bags about every 5 years, for my own peace of mind.... even if they don't need it.
7/2/2016 9:58:29 AM EDT
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IMHO.... a gunsock could attract moisture and retain it.... causing rust.

VCI bags can be bought for far less then retail.

http://www.44mag.com/category/vci_long_term_storage_bags

http://www.polygunbag.com/gunbags.html



While VCI is not a perfect 10+ year storage option.... it is easy.  I change my bags about every 5 years, for my own peace of mind.... even if they don't need it.
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I'll just stick with the gun sock idea and just clean & oil one at a time then throw a sock on it (maybe a dehu). At this time I just can't justify spending $22/bag x how many guns. I'll probably never shoot any of them again, there is a few that I might but the majority are hard to find calibers.

Thanks for all the info!


IMHO.... a gunsock could attract moisture and retain it.... causing rust.

VCI bags can be bought for far less then retail.

http://www.44mag.com/category/vci_long_term_storage_bags

http://www.polygunbag.com/gunbags.html



While VCI is not a perfect 10+ year storage option.... it is easy.  I change my bags about every 5 years, for my own peace of mind.... even if they don't need it.



Wow, thats a pretty good deal. I might have to go that route, do you just zip tie them at the end? That's what it looks like they did.
7/2/2016 10:06:33 AM EDT
[#10]
Yes.... Zip tie works, or even a twist tie.

I have used them for years.... decades ?

And I, personally have seen "gun soxes" create mildew etc in less then perfect environmental conditions.

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