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Posted: 11/26/2012 8:24:41 AM EDT
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How do you do it ?
Is it parts or internal mods ? How do you file for your NFA stamp on something like this ? 
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There are a lot of transferables out there. (Reltively speaking) They sell for around $9,000-$12,000.
John Norrell did most of them, and still releases "new" ones from time to time. You can't really make one, but you can buy one made before 1986. So the supply is limited to what was made before then. That is why the price is so high. Consider how much cars would cost if none could be made after 1986 for example. The artificial supply is the reason they cost so much. The modifications are probably $100 in actual parts and labor. They do look like a ton of fun, but are certainly an expensive toy, but they certainly are not getting any cheaper. |
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He's selling a DVD with information to build post sample or illegal machine guns.. Depending on your license status. |
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John Norrell did most of them, and still releases "new" ones from time to time. Any idea how to get plugged into when he decides to let go of some? IIRC he either has an email list or announces on strum. My understanding is that they pretty much sell instantly. People are ready with cash for these. Occasionally you can find one for sale on the normal NFA channels like sturm, subguns, Reuben, etc. |
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He is selling a DVD that probably tells you how to convert a 10/22 to full-auto. The knowledge in the video is not illegal. However, actually performing the modifications regardless if you fire the gun or not, can get you up to 10 years in prison unless you fall into one of a handful of situations where you are a special manufactuer or dealer in these types of firearms, or own one of the 155,000 or so transferable machineguns that were registered with the ATF between 1934 and 1986. Possession of an unregistered machine-gun, regardless of when it was made, can get you 10 years in prison. Since 1986, you cannot pay the $200 tax to register new machine-guns. You can pay a $200 tax to transfer to you one that was registered via $200 tax before 1986. Suppressors, Short barreld shotguns and rifles, destructive devices, and "all other weapons" also fall into this tax category, but the registry is NOT closed to new registrations for them. This is why you can buy a new silencer, but you can't buy a new MG. Prior to 1986, buying a suppressor was the same as buying a machinegun. There are probably a ton of illegal machineguns in this country. And there is no doubt that people have taken such knowledge as in the DVD and made their own little felony gun. Most will go undetected by the feds. However, if they do catch you, they typically do press for, and get close to maximum sentences. The ATF loves to crawl up people's pants about reports of unregistered MG's. You are free to make choices and the government cannot control your mind, so if you desire the knowledge, order the DVD. If you want to play with MG's without taking chances, you are looking at $2500-$3000 minimum for an old MAC-10 type gun. |
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It fires from an open bolt, that is interesting. |
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*The following is for educational purposes ONLY! Do NOT attempt to do this to your 10/22.*
An open bolt 10/22 works by using a fixed firing pin system (the firing pin is permanently welded / pinned in the forward position). The triggering mechanism can be accomplished in a multitude of ways. Most require no mods to the sear, disconnector, or hammer. Those parts are simply removed. Some mods require the manufacture of a linkage (or two, depends on deign) and slight machining to the bolt. Another option is to use the factory bolt stop, so machining a notch in the bolt is not required. I won't go any further in depth into describing the design, but carefully study the trigger group of a FA MAC 10 and you will get the idea. Open bolt is the simplest design, but also the most dangerous, since you are essentially slam firing each shot. A closed bolt design has many problems with bolt bounce and other sh!t that causes problems. Here is a video of my fat doughnut a$$ shooting Thompson Machine's KFO, which is a post sample open bolt 10/22: http://youtu.be/Pehh-1lSpoo |
FTF industries sells a trigger mod set for $120 that converts a standard pack to full auto. You should just get a aftermarket trigger group that can be adjusted and turn it down so there is a very light trigger pull and it should be very easy to bump fire. Or you could buy a rubber  band
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As suggested above, just get a MAC 11/9 or an Uzi full auto and a matching .22 conversion kit. Less total cost than a full auto Ruger 10/22 (even the lower cost non-Norrell conversions) and more versatile. Best of luck whatever you decide. MHO, YMMV, etc. Buy a registered receiver AR and a .22 conversion kit with sear trip and bolt weight for something both more costly and more useful. I recently got my hands on a Ciener conversion with the FA parts included. Gave them to a SOT friend in exchange for a little range time(M14 mag dump). |
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Full Auto .22???
How about using bumpfire? TONS OF FUN!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8As5R8sN7E&feature=plcp |
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