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Posted: 5/11/2011 6:04:13 PM EDT
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I'm strongly considering the purchase of a DIAS, and was hoping to have some current MG owners chime in with their opinions on this type of purchase.
First of all, I've considering a sear for my MP5 and a Colt RR, but have decided 100% that a DIAS would suit my liking the most...so that's not in contention. What is making me pause most is that 1: It's a helluva lot of money 2: I'd have to sell a few other firearms to get one(although they are kinda just range-toys as well...and also not real practical parts of my collection), and 3: I'm concerned that the novelty will wear off. Anyhow...just hoping to get some feedback from the guys here who have jumped into the full-auto game, and see if they ever had regrets, or just simply got bored with it. Thanks for any input guys! -Mike |
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After you get over the mag dumps, you start to try to control the trigger for 3rd burst, then single shot. Then you look at how much they cost to feed with the happy switch on and you find them sitting more and more. At least that is the case with me. I have 2 mini Uzi's a full size Uzi, M16, MP5 and a FA Glock sear. Ok the Glock is always fun to shoot no matter what! |
| The M-16 RDAIS and HK sear are the most flexable machine guns you can buy. The M-16 will have cheaper and more available parts. The HK series you will end up buying several hosts which is expensive. It would be a tough choice as to which one I would prefer. They both cost about the same, an RDIAS and HK sear run about $12K each. If you were going to run 9mm mostly then the HK Mp5 series wins. However if you are going to run 5.56mm mainly then the M-16 wins. If money is a factor then I would go with the RDIAS for cheaper parts. The HK sear will cost you a lot more in the end with expensive hosts and parts that are harder to get. |
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Does the novelty wear off?
Well .... 
Th AR15 was designed by Gene Stoner as a select-fire gun. That design was accepted by the military and designated the M16/A1/2/etc. Later, to make it legal for mere subjects, slaves and peons to own, Colt and others cut the testicles off it, and offered the neutered AR15 for civilian sales. I get a great deal of personal enjoyment out of owning a non-neutered AR15, as originally designed. And I enjoy flaunting ownership of a machine gun to the befuddled skeet-shooting Fudds. Does it cost more in ammo to shoot full-auto than it does to shoot semi? Well, yeah, of course it does. 
But once you own a '16, you also have the option of shooting 9mm, .22RF, etc. And you have the option of moving the selector to semi, or more importantly, leaving it on "auto" and just using pure trigger control to pull off triples, doubles or singles ... ya know, the way it was designed to be fired, by well-trained individuals. FWIW, I've been shooting MGs since JFK sat in the Oval Office, though I didn't buy my first personal MG (a Colt M16) until 1994 ... bought a lot of MGs since then and sold them all except that '16 and an Uzi, since those were the two I most enjoyed. In that time, I've known a lot of MG owners, and most considered it the most fun you can have with your pants on ... and the few who sold them and got out of NFA also sold their Vettes and 4x4's to buy KIAs, "because they use so much less gas." Yes, they are expensive to own, and to run (note: MGs don't "shoot", they "run", like well-oiled machines). Owning a machine gun is the ultimate expression of your God-given freedom as an American citizen. Regardless of the cost, exercising that freedom is worth it to me. Your Mileage May Vary. 
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And I enjoy flaunting ownership of a machine gun to the befuddled skeet-shooting Fudds.
HA!!! I love this! Tony, you got some great points in there!...that I share similar thoughts on. I've just run into a personal zone of wanting the shed some firearms from my inventory that I bought mainly because I thought they were cool, unique, and rare...but really see very limited use. I want my dollars to translate into great times shooting, rather than having a huge safe filled with dozens of real cool guns that were rarely enjoyed aside being looked at and fondled every now and then. I hate to give them up, but I just have this feeling that I'd get much more enjoyment out of one sear, than the 4-5 guns I would sell to buy it. I've seen a number of times where a very impressive collection of arms was being sold off by a descendant of a collector, or the collector themselves as they grow too old to care about having all that stuff...and it depressed me. I want to wring the hell outa each firearm I have, and with the AR15's being my favorite, I think the DIAS will help me do just that! Any suggestions on what DIAS manufacture to look for? I like the idea of an all-steel unit, and I'm prepared to wait and be picky about finding one that hasn't been modified like crazy over the years and requires timing-shims to run properly. Thanks so much for the response guys! |
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Just do it, you only live once, so you might as well enjoy yourself. If you get tired of it, sell it and buy something else. I own 2 MG's, like Tony, an M16 and an Uzi and they are more fun than I can tell you. They are very expensive and eat a lot of ammo, but I shoot them more than anything else I own. Also the ammo is generally not hard to afford, when I go shooting with a few friends, they buy the ammo and I bring the expensive toys, so I don't pay for too much ammo myself. It's a fair trade, they get to shoot a MG without having to drop tons of cash on buying one and I get to shoot my MG's without having to pay for the ammo. At the end of the day I think you enjoy your purchase, but everyone's different, like I said, if you change your mind later you can always sell it.
My .02 cents |
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I have a DIAS and a HK sear and while i love the HK the DIAS has to be the most versatile MG available. Ihave a MGI modular lower with 5.56 and AK msg wells so I can run it in 5.56, 7.62x39, 9mm, 22lr and 300 fireball.
The other nice thing about a DIAS is how easy AR's are to work on. With HK you are looking at a lot of time and money to get them fixed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I'm strongly considering the purchase of a DIAS, and was hoping to have some current MG owners chime in with their opinions on this type of purchase. First of all, I've considering a sear for my MP5 and a Colt RR, but have decided 100% that a DIAS would suit my liking the most...so that's not in contention. What is making me pause most is that 1: It's a helluva lot of money 2: I'd have to sell a few other firearms to get one(although they are kinda just range-toys as well...and also not real practical parts of my collection), and 3: I'm concerned that the novelty will wear off. Anyhow...just hoping to get some feedback from the guys here who have jumped into the full-auto game, and see if they ever had regrets, or just simply got bored with it. Thanks for any input guys! -Mike I like watching other people shoot my M16 and M11A1 more and more. |
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I like watching other people shoot my M16 and M11A1 more and more. +1. I can't count the number of times I've gone to the range, run into other folk who had never shot an MG, taught them how to do so safely, and then let them burn through hundreds and hundreds of rounds of my ammo ... only to get home, take out the guns for cleaning and the mags for reloading, and realized that I had not fired a single shot all day. And that makes me smile. Because seeing that First-Time-Full-Auto Grin on someone's face, and knowing I put it there, is just priceless. 
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