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Posted: 5/27/2013 4:52:10 PM EDT
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I'm sure this has been asked a million times so my apologies in advance. I'm relatively new to the scene of the M1 Garand and after meeting and briefly discussing the CMP program with some local club members my interest has been peaked.
I'm very interested in picking one up for myself through CMP but figure I might not be in a position financially to do so until later in the year. Considering the mad rush for everything firearms, should I be concerned at all about rifle availability come november/december timeframe? I read on another thread from this time in 2012 that another 2 years of good rifles were expected to be available which I'm guessing would have meant through 2014, but with the mad rush of buying I'm concerned that forecast could be cut down considerably. Considering surplus arms is a limited supply, I just don't want to be left without a chair when the music stops but. (In case it matters I'm most interested in the CMP Special, or a good Service Grade flavor of M1.) |
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Don't let people scare you. The CMP still has a huge warehouse with dozens upon dozens of crates of Garands that still need to sifted through and put up for sale, and there are still plenty sitting in warehouses of other countries, that will probably eventually return them to our government.
The only thing that huge runs on the CMP do, is to make it take longer to get your rifle order. They only have so many people, to get so many rifles out, and they pretty much will not hire more people to move more rifles. They might get more volunteers to help move things along, but even then, they only have a certain number of gunsmiths that are authorized to grade and certify their rifles going out. When you think about the number of people willing to jump the hoops for a CMP rifle, you will realize there are not as many people ordering from the CMP as you would think. They talk about being swamped to their gills, then you will hear the director talk about being backordered to the tune of a few hundred rifles. That is really nothing in the grand scheme of things, and only reflects how small of an operation they are running. In this thread, he explains how many crates they have stacked up, and states they had about 800 HRA service grade specials available. That was almost a month ago, and even with people switching their orders from the Springfield Armory rifle they originally ordered, and any new orders that have come in since then, they still show these rifles as being available for ordering. http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=106819 |
| Only a little over 6,000,000 were made from 1936 thru 1957. Deduct for those lost in battles, lost to Captain Crunch during the Clinton regime, lost to wear and tear or general recruit abuse, and those lost in the Lend/Lease programs of the Cold War Era. And my three. I'd say one had better hurry up and get theirs they will be all gone. When? Who could say but when the CMP is down to doing rebuild/repair, like now, I'd say the end is coming. |
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Only a little over 6,000,000 were made from 1936 thru 1957. Deduct for those lost in battles, lost to Captain Crunch during the Clinton regime, lost to wear and tear or general recruit abuse, and those lost in the Lend/Lease programs of the Cold War Era. And my three. I'd say one had better hurry up and get theirs they will be all gone. When? Who could say but when the CMP is down to doing rebuild/repair, like now, I'd say the end is coming. They will still be around for decades after the CMP is done selling them, and CMP has always done a rebuild/repair as required before sending a rifle out of their doors. So for you to make that statement in defense of your false claim is bullshit. The CMP still has dozens upon dozens of crates that they still have to sort through, and new crates filter in on a somewhat regular basis. We only hear of the large numbers like the Greek returns, where they got 100,000 or so at a time, but those kind of numbers take years to sell. Like I said before, the CMP is a really small operation. Think about it. At 100,000 rifles, they would have to sell more than 274 a day to sell out in a year. I bet it normally takes them a month or more to move that many rifles. |
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And lets not forget that alot of the early collectors are getting older and liquidating their collections, by choice or by their kids. We cant take em with us  Oh yeah? You haven't seen my will! 
Good thread though... I will definitely be picking up a few more soon. |
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Only a little over 6,000,000 were made from 1936 thru 1957. Deduct for those lost in battles, lost to Captain Crunch during the Clinton regime, lost to wear and tear or general recruit abuse, and those lost in the Lend/Lease programs of the Cold War Era. And my three. I'd say one had better hurry up and get theirs they will be all gone. When? Who could say but when the CMP is down to doing rebuild/repair, like now, I'd say the end is coming. They will still be around for decades after the CMP is done selling them, and CMP has always done a rebuild/repair as required before sending a rifle out of their doors. So for you to make that statement in defense of your false claim is bullshit. The CMP still has dozens upon dozens of crates that they still have to sort through, and new crates filter in on a somewhat regular basis. We only hear of the large numbers like the Greek returns, where they got 100,000 or so at a time, but those kind of numbers take years to sell. Like I said before, the CMP is a really small operation. Think about it. At 100,000 rifles, they would have to sell more than 274 a day to sell out in a year. I bet it normally takes them a month or more to move that many rifles. Well 6,000,000 is a finite number and many were lost thru the reasons mentioned in my post. Back when the DCM only allowed ONE per lifetime many Garandaholics repaired cut receivers by welding the parts back together. The results were not always safe shooters or able to shoot at all. How many of the Winchester, Springfield, International Harvester and Harrington Richardson are still available I have no idea, but I do know how many were made. In fact more M1 Carbines were made and how hard are they to find and the CMP sold out a couple of years ago. So maybe I am full of --it? |
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Only a little over 6,000,000 were made from 1936 thru 1957. Deduct for those lost in battles, lost to Captain Crunch during the Clinton regime, lost to wear and tear or general recruit abuse, and those lost in the Lend/Lease programs of the Cold War Era. And my three. I'd say one had better hurry up and get theirs they will be all gone. When? Who could say but when the CMP is down to doing rebuild/repair, like now, I'd say the end is coming. They will still be around for decades after the CMP is done selling them, and CMP has always done a rebuild/repair as required before sending a rifle out of their doors. So for you to make that statement in defense of your false claim is bullshit. The CMP still has dozens upon dozens of crates that they still have to sort through, and new crates filter in on a somewhat regular basis. We only hear of the large numbers like the Greek returns, where they got 100,000 or so at a time, but those kind of numbers take years to sell. Like I said before, the CMP is a really small operation. Think about it. At 100,000 rifles, they would have to sell more than 274 a day to sell out in a year. I bet it normally takes them a month or more to move that many rifles. Well 6,000,000 is a finite number and many were lost thru the reasons mentioned in my post. Back when the DCM only allowed ONE per lifetime many Garandaholics repaired cut receivers by welding the parts back together. The results were not always safe shooters or able to shoot at all. How many of the Winchester, Springfield, International Harvester and Harrington Richardson are still available I have no idea, but I do know how many were made. In fact more M1 Carbines were made and how hard are they to find and the CMP sold out a couple of years ago. So maybe I am full of --it? We aren't talking potato chips. These are metal and wood. They will continue to be sold for decades to come. M1 carbines are not that hard to find. CMP has several on auction every single day, and they are frequently found on all manner of gun selling boards. They are usually much pricier than before, but still plentiful. |
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