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Posted: 11/10/2007 9:49:39 AM EDT
| I can't find much info on this can (not even dB suppressed). Anyone have experience with it? |
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I have one, it's an descent can for the price, but for just a little more you can get better cans from other companies. My impressions: It's not hearing safe inside, or under an awning without media. With media it's not hearing safe inside, but it is under an awning. Now it may just that my ears haven't taken enough damage yet, but I consider hearing safe to be when I don't get ringing in my ears after firing it. Cycling is hit or miss with some guns. With a broken in USP Tactical 45 it will cycle with most ammos, though it's a bit lethargic, other guns are hit or miss. The fit and finish is not that great either. If you buy one check that the mount has been secured with Loctite, if it hasn't either rockset it, or use red Loctite, or you will have problems particularly if you are using it on the USP Tactical. The finish is subpar IMO, for a $700 item the anodizing is worse then a $80 flashlight, there are spots down the bottomside of the can. |
It is not that much cheaper than any other non boostered design. It has less material,design,complexity in manuf. of course it's cheaper to produce. www.impactguns.com/store/AAC-ECLIPSE.html |
No current can is hearing safe, but they are much quieter and closer to hearing safe. Also has mentioned by others the Blackside is only cheaper because it doesn't have a booster which in itself causes issues making it so it rarely cycles reliably on pistols other then the USP Tactical, even then it can be hit or miss if your USPT isn't broken in. If I were buying a 45 can today, I would buy the following cans in this order: KAC CCF AAC Evo 45 SWR Also if you plan on shooting it wet often, I would likely stick with the AAC because their design limits some of the splatter with the media. If I were planning to shoot it dry I would stick with the KAC. |
Drop me a call at the office of PM me and I will fill you in on all the details and dB ratings of the can. The Blackside is a great suppressor, at a great price, and is one of the best options on the market right now in .45ACP cans. Cheers, -DH |
KAC- I'm waiting on it just like every one else- I think its stupid to buy a can that's not hearing safe w/o media. It a fucking mess to deal with all that. I will spend the money to get quality. |
| It's louder than most other .45 cans on the market, and it's not as reliable as any other .45 can with a booster. I own one, and if I could do it all over again I'd get a HMES-II from SWR. The Blackside is cheap and short, and those are really it's only two redeeming factors. Spend the extra cash and get a reliable suppressor, and one that will sound better as well. |
| I've shot it next to KAC, AAC, and SWR and it was louder than all three, louder when all were shot dry, and louder when all were shot wet. Certainly this supports it in my mind. And I'm certainly not trusting Gemtech's decibel numbers. If the OP can't go out and shoot one next to competing cans, why take that risk? Not to mention the finish sucks and the rear cap was loose until I rocksetted it. Course, those are simply cosmetic and easily fixable. I've been to the range with several people and the only ones that have been happy have never shot it next to another .45 can, nor do they put more than 50 or 100 rounds through it in a range session. YMMV, but the savings was not worth it. |
| I had a little trigger time with one on a Mark 23. It was shot wet, outdoors, and in the presence of Bookhound and several others. For a compact can, it was very quiet, and I shot it quite comfortably with no hearing protection on. This was in a large field with nothing for the sound to really bounce off of, which does tend to make things seem quieter. For the limited amount of exposure I had with it, I was quite impressed. |
That was a fun day.   Mark |
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