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Posted: 10/6/2008 9:16:31 PM EDT
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I can't decide between the two. What are your thoughts & experience? Has anyone had the chance to shoot both? Does the multimount have a stainless stell blast baffle like the SWR Trident ? I heard SWR uses better quality materials. Is this true? |
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I am a member of Gemtech. First off, you would be happy with either suppressor. They are both excellent units with comparable performance, weight, and versatility. I think that most of the mounts are interchangeable. We do not use a stainless blast baffle. There is no need to do so, and using one increases weight. The grade of aluminum we use for the baffle stack (7075) and the heat treatment specifications has the same tensile strength and greater yield strength than 303, 304, or 316 stainless. No matter what you do in 9mm, you will never get the suppressor to the temperature where the aluminum will fail. If you were to operate at over 1,000 degrees, this would become an issue, but if you were operating there, the rest of the suppressor would have to go to steel also. Our older Raptor and Mossad suppressors were specifically designed for full-auto submachine gun usage (MP5 and UZI). We have a customer who documented 175,000+ rounds through his MP5/Raptor and another who documented 225,000 rounds through his UZI/Mossad. On both of these units performance had dropped through completely filling the suppressor with carbon and lead. However, on disassembly, the aluminum blast baffle showed no sign of erosion or structural failure. Incidentally, these older units used the far weaker 6061 aluminum. As I said before, you will be happy with either suppressor and with either company for after the sale support. Rather than base your choice on a "feature" that has little meaning, look for a dealer with whom you can work (especially if he has one in stock) and see which unit he will offer you the best deal on. We do have the Multimount on the shelf available for immediate transfer. Hope this helps. |
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So both are rated for full auto? Also, I've seen some dB measurements on silencerresearch.com for using Sub-Sonic ammo out of a Trident can.... ...but what kind of sound reduction would be seen in using Sub-Sonic ammo & firing the can WET... does anyone have a ballpark guess of what the dB would be ? check out this video... www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkZpBlun8MM it says the Evo9 is fired WET while the SWR Shadow is fired DRY ... do you believe this is true ? Sounds to me like the SWR Shadow is superior since its fired "dry". |
Yes, both are rated for full auto. Do not rely on youtube videos to tell you what cans will sound like. They almost always sound different in real life. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. You wouldn't be disappointed with the Trident, I promise you that. I have no experience with the Multimount. The evo 9 is a very good wet can, and keep in mind it's not the same size as the other two. Which size can do you want? |
Correct, but many users find that they shoot 'through' the can -- keep both eyes open, and you will get a sight picture superimposed over the target even with a can in the way. But you can purchase raised sights if you don't like that method. I've done it both ways and I feel that paying extra for tall sights is not necessary. |
I'm with ORinTX on this one. You should be shooting with both eyes open. If so, getting hits with the sights occluded is easy. Mark |
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While I agree with PHD from Gemtech, I just have to throw in my $0.02. Both of the suppressors are close. While the mounts "might" thread in they really are not 100% interchangeable.
I feel that the steel blast baffle is required. The NASTY junk that is in some of the powders these days are essentially sandblasting the first baffle away, the steel also provides some protection for the people that like to clean their suppressors with tools. |
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... the steel also provides some protection for the people that like to clean their suppressors with tools. That is a good point. After much use, I was getting a lot of buildup in my Trident. Soaking in oil didn't seem to do much, and I ended up having to mechanically scrape the buildup out. Once I was done, the baffle looked like new with no apparent damage from scraping. 
If I were to get another 9mm can, I would look hard at the Multi-Mount. I'm a big fan of the Trident, but isn't it some ARFCom rule to "get both". |
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... the steel also provides some protection for the people that like to clean their suppressors with tools. That is a good point. After much use, I was getting a lot of buildup in my Trident. Soaking in oil didn't seem to do much, and I ended up having to mechanically scrape the buildup out. Once I was done, the baffle looked like new with no apparent damage from scraping. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/GarrettJ/DSC07953-1.jpg If I were to get another 9mm can, I would look hard at the Multi-Mount. I'm a big fan of the Trident, but isn't it some ARFCom rule to "get both". Anybody tried sandblasting just the blast chamber? Or am I just wasting bandwidth? |
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Anybody tried sandblasting just the blast chamber? Or am I just wasting bandwidth? Seems like you would end up with all of your blasting grit rattling around inside the can when you got done. Well not if you plugged the rest of the stack perhaps. Where just the plast baffle was exposed. Of course I have yet to lay eyes on my multimount so I don't even know if that is possible. 
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