Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
Armory Sponsor
11/26/2006 10:10:03 AM EDT
I wanted to get some info on this suppressor.  I plan on buying my first suppressor soon, and have heard good things about the Outback 2.  But I do have this question:

Can I disassemble it for cleaning?

I am concerned about this because I plan on shooting 5,000 - 10,000 rounds a year through this suppressor, maybe more.  I'm only in my 20's and would like for this to last 40 + more years.  Obviously, this is a big purchase, and I want it to be the right one.

Anyone have experience with the Gemtech 2?  Your input is VERY much appreciated.
11/26/2006 10:43:32 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
Can I disassemble it for cleaning?


Nope.



I am concerned about this because I plan on shooting 5,000 - 10,000 rounds a year through this suppressor, maybe more.  I'm only in my 20's and would like for this to last 40 + more years.  Obviously, this is a big purchase, and I want it to be the right one.

Anyone have experience with the Gemtech 2?  Your input is VERY much appreciated.


I've put somewhere around 2K rounds of various brands through mine since I received it in July. I've had no problems with it, and I can't hear it getting louder. The manual suggests soaking in a mix of mineral spirits and ATF, and that seems to help clean out some of the loose crud. When I get to 15-20K rounds through it, I might give Gemtech a call about getting it rebuilt if it gets loud enough.

If you're asking for 40 years out of a .22 can, there will probably be some nasty legislation long before you have problems with the can getting ruined.

ETA: Just noticed you're in Indiana. If you're around Muncie, let me know and I'll let you shoot mine.
11/26/2006 10:49:49 AM EDT
[#2]
Asking 40 years of hard use out of anything is a joke

Your best bet is finding a .22 can that you can take down for cleaning, probably with stainless steel baffles.

I have the Outback II, and I love it.  Worth every penny!

But don't have unrealistic expectations, or you will be disappointed every time.
11/26/2006 10:51:32 AM EDT
[#3]
If you plan on shooting that much you might consider a take apart silencer.
11/26/2006 10:56:22 AM EDT
[#4]
My experience is in a take apart 22lr silencer you better take it apart ever 1000 rnds or so, every 500 or so would be better, I have cleaned silencers for customers that went around 4000 rnds and while not filled up solid they are so stuck that it was beyond the typical owner in being able to devise a way to dissassemble.

11/26/2006 11:31:02 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
My experience is in a take apart 22lr silencer you better take it apart ever 1000 rnds or so, every 500 or so would be better, I have cleaned silencers for customers that went around 4000 rnds and while not filled up solid they are so stuck that it was beyond the typical owner in being able to devise a way to dissassemble.



Exactly

11/26/2006 1:03:30 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

ETA: Just noticed you're in Indiana. If you're around Muncie, let me know and I'll let you shoot mine.


I'm from around Kokomo, but we rarely ever go near muncie.


If it lasted 10 years I would be happy, but the longer the better.  I don't know much at all about suppressors.  I guess now I'm trying to balance quality, noice reduction, and the ability to clean it.  I will have to shoot Gemtech an email and ask about their warranty on it.  I don't want to spend $300 on something that will have to be replaced in just a couple or few years.
11/26/2006 1:13:25 PM EDT
[#7]
There will always be talent that can repair things, warranties are only as good as long as the company exists, with silencer companies most are keyed around 1 person owning/running the company.  Company might not be around in 10yrs to do service.

Pick up a gun catalog from 10yrs ago, see how many of those silencer manuf. are still in business, now factor in that the ones that have lasted 10 years are going to be that much closer to retirement/death than some new upstart company.

It's a crap shoot.

11/27/2006 8:24:49 AM EDT
[#8]
I have a Gem Tech Outback II.  It runs great.  If you want one for 40 years there is only 1 that might be able to get to that age.

www.tacticalinc.com/quest-stainless-steel-premiumbrlightweight-suppressor-p-552.html

Tactical Innovations Quest its new so it might take a little while to get...

11/27/2006 12:59:25 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Obviously, this is a big purchase, and I want it to be the right one.


IMHO, in the grand scheme of things shooting-related, I personally don't consider this a big purchase.  YMMV.
11/27/2006 2:12:31 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I wanted to get some info on this suppressor.  I plan on buying my first suppressor soon, and have heard good things about the Outback 2.  But I do have this question:

Can I disassemble it for cleaning?

I am concerned about this because I plan on shooting 5,000 - 10,000 rounds a year through this suppressor, maybe more.  I'm only in my 20's and would like for this to last 40 + more years.  Obviously, this is a big purchase, and I want it to be the right one.

Anyone have experience with the Gemtech 2?  Your input is VERY much appreciated.


If you honestly think you'll put that many rounds through a can in a year, you NEED a take apart can. I would check out the new Tac Innovations Quest or the AAC Prodigy. I just took possession of an AAC PIlot which is similar to the Outback II. I was really concerned about the longevity of the can, but I have a feeling AAC will be around for awhile. Coughing up $150 for basically a new can (rebuild) somewhere down the road is worth it to me. The only downside is silencers are worse than Black Rifle Disease. Now I need to suppress more toys in my collection.
11/27/2006 3:12:48 PM EDT
[#11]

I have an Outback II & a TAC 67 stainless suppressor.  Gemtech makes a good product but honestly I like the TAC 67 better. Suppresion to my ears is about the same. When you pick up the TAC you KNOW the thing is SOLID -- and you can take it apart.  I'll never go back to an all aluminum can for a .22.   SRT also makes a stainless .22 can.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/mendoza1/endcaps.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/mendoza1/outside-3.jpg
11/27/2006 4:48:52 PM EDT
[#12]
I am not a silencer expert by any stretch, but if it is your first can you will LOVE the Outback. It is extremely fun to shoot and gemtech has excellent customer service. You can usually find an outback for around 300 dollars or so...which is small change compared to what some of the guys are dropping on ARs around here.

If you find one in stock in your neighborhood, I would buy it, shoot the hell out of it and enjoy it, and then when you wear it out send it back to Gemtech after you have shot thousands and thousands of rounds through it and see if they will rebuild it for you for a nominal fee You wont be dissapointed! Gemtech service is literally among the best in the industry.
11/28/2006 4:08:57 AM EDT
[#13]
Just to add the the Outback II pics...


11/28/2006 5:08:31 AM EDT
[#14]
Outback II:  not a major purchase.  Car or house = major purchase.  



Get started, or you will never get finished.


If I had any indication that this can was getting louder, I would buy another in a heartbeat and send this one in for a rebuild.  I wouldn't want to be without it for weeks.......
11/28/2006 10:09:38 AM EDT
[#15]
If your primary use is on a pistola, it is compact, lightweight, and relatively affordable.

For a primary rifle application, I would take consideration in the recommendations for a "take-apart" built with stronger/heavier materials.
11/28/2006 10:13:12 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
If your primary use is on a pistola, it is compact, lightweight, and relatively affordable.

For a primary rifle application, I would take consideration in the recommendations for a "take-apart" built with stronger/heavier materials.


The Outback II works well on a rifle.  You really need to justify destroying the balance of a light barreled rimfire with a heavy can.  I haven't been able to.



This rifle now wears a Leupold PR and has a Timney trigger.  Even at the end of the day with over 80 .308 rounds fired in another rifle, I went back to the silhouette range and devastated the steel with this magical rifle.  A heavy can would have killed me!
12/2/2006 9:14:38 AM EDT
[#17]
well, shucks.  I think you guys just talked me into buying TWO cans!  Gemtech Outback 2 for the P22, and a take-apart for the rifle.

I will probly go with the Outback 2 first, and in a couple years get a good stainless take-apart can for the rifle.
12/2/2006 2:44:45 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If your primary use is on a pistola, it is compact, lightweight, and relatively affordable.

For a primary rifle application, I would take consideration in the recommendations for a "take-apart" built with stronger/heavier materials.


The Outback II works well on a rifle.  You really need to justify destroying the balance of a light barreled rimfire with a heavy can.  I haven't been able to.

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=46381

This rifle now wears a Leupold PR and has a Timney trigger.  Even at the end of the day with over 80 .308 rounds fired in another rifle, I went back to the silhouette range and devastated the steel with this magical rifle.  A heavy can would have killed me!


Not saying it does'nt work well or great, just wouldnt be my first choice for the application.





Armory Sponsor