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2/5/2008 2:28:30 PM EDT
I think this is the new Gemtech suppressor for the GSG-5. I don't know if it is permanently attached to the rifle or not. It might just be perm attached to the barrel.

2/5/2008 2:30:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Damn, there seems to be a lot of cool shit coming out in .22lr
~Dg84
2/5/2008 2:31:03 PM EDT
[#2]
I want one.
2/5/2008 2:58:44 PM EDT
[#3]
I hope its perm, since we cant have SBRs here in  Alabama.

That would be sweet.
2/5/2008 4:11:35 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I hope its perm, since we cant have SBRs here in  Alabama.

That would be sweet.


+1

2/5/2008 4:36:56 PM EDT
[#5]
Yeah i got my GSG today.  I cant wait to send it off.  Gemtech said they will perm attach it to the barrel but will get back to me on a price.  Stay Tuned...
2/5/2008 5:16:57 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Yeah i got my GSG today.  I cant wait to send it off.  Gemtech said they will perm attach it to the barrel but will get back to me on a price.  Stay Tuned...


Awesome! Now I just need to graduate and get a job.  
2/5/2008 5:56:45 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

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Yeah i got my GSG today.  I cant wait to send it off.  Gemtech said they will perm attach it to the barrel but will get back to me on a price.  Stay Tuned...


Awesome! Now I just need to graduate and get a job.  


hahah. I feel your pain.
2/5/2008 6:39:03 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

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Yeah i got my GSG today.  I cant wait to send it off.  Gemtech said they will perm attach it to the barrel but will get back to me on a price.  Stay Tuned...


Awesome! Now I just need to graduate and get a job.  


hahah. I feel your pain.


Two and a half months!
2/5/2008 7:00:54 PM EDT
[#9]
i'm so getting that. maybe 2.



2/6/2008 9:31:52 AM EDT
[#10]
For the GSG5 the cool part of this can is that it is nearly the size of a 9mm can, so I guess it makes the GSG5 look "cool".  

But then if you didn't perm the can it would be a giant .22lr muzzle can.
2/6/2008 3:01:50 PM EDT
[#11]
I have my GSG-5 already, I have the  Form 1 filled out.

I'm waiting for Gem Tech to get back from SHOT.

Once I talk to them about hte chop and 2 lug attachment I'll send in the Form 1 and have the receiver engraved.    I just want ot make sure they can do the chop and 3 lug conversion.

I will have that can in 3 lug attachment form!

2/6/2008 3:31:49 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
For the GSG5 the cool part of this can is that it is nearly the size of a 9mm can, so I guess it makes the GSG5 look "cool".  

But then if you didn't perm the can it would be a giant .22lr muzzle can.


Hopefully Silencer Research will test it later this year for dB reduction. Big Can = Big sound reduction
2/6/2008 4:35:56 PM EDT
[#13]
man I would be excited to see that done with an AR as well...permanetly attached that is. I can own a suppressor but not a SBR...  It puts a smile on my face just thinking about it.
2/6/2008 7:15:56 PM EDT
[#14]
IS Gemtech making a second option still? A adpater that screws into the sight tower so that U can use a standard can?
2/6/2008 8:35:47 PM EDT
[#15]

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IS Gemtech making a second option still? A adpater that screws into the sight tower so that U can use a standard can?


sure looks like it. I cant wait.

second and third pics down
2/6/2008 10:18:16 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
For the GSG5 the cool part of this can is that it is nearly the size of a 9mm can, so I guess it makes the GSG5 look "cool".  

But then if you didn't perm the can it would be a giant .22lr muzzle can.


Hopefully Silencer Research will test it later this year for dB reduction. Big Can = Big sound reduction


That's true to a point.  At a point the gains are very slim to none.  

I wouldn't be too surprised if it was a 45DB can.  <taking the lead in the performance game, but at a cost of double the volume and weight of competing products.  

Maybe Gemtech can help inform customers in decision making with a performance figure they have found in testing on a given firearm that can be confirmed independently at a later time.  
2/7/2008 3:47:21 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
IS Gemtech making a second option still? A adpater that screws into the sight tower so that U can use a standard can?


sure looks like it. I cant wait.

second and third pics down
Thanks. HELL YES? I guess I will filling out a form 1 very soon. I all ready have the Outback2 paper with the ATF.
2/7/2008 8:07:27 AM EDT
[#18]
I'm going to send mine off and have it permanently attached.  I already have a couple of .22 cans so I don't want to spend the extra $200 for the F1.
2/7/2008 9:53:55 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Damn, there seems to be a lot of cool shit coming out in .22lr
~Dg84


That is because .22LR is all most of us can afford to shoot.
2/7/2008 12:46:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Gemtech showed me this gun and can at the show.  Looks VERY cool.  Dealers will be able to buy complete package (gun and can) from Gemtech.  If only the gun would take HK sears/trigger packs.  Man, that would be the ultimate fun!

Mark
2/9/2008 6:57:01 AM EDT
[#21]


eta, how can these folks already have their gsg-5 sbr'd, they haven't even been out on the streets for a month.
2/9/2008 7:15:06 AM EDT
[#22]
I'm having a hard time understanding why Gemtech has an adapter that screws into the FSB.  If I'm going through with the trouble to SBR the rifle and chop the barrel, why wouldn't I just get the barrel threaded?  
2/9/2008 9:40:32 AM EDT
[#23]

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I'm having a hard time understanding why Gemtech has an adapter that screws into the FSB.  If I'm going through with the trouble to SBR the rifle and chop the barrel, why wouldn't I just get the barrel threaded?  


The barrel is too skinny, it might work but there's a gap where the fake suppressor is. I think it's the best way around after chopping the barrel.
2/9/2008 10:33:52 AM EDT
[#24]
I've seen pictures of the muzzle--no way that barrel is too skinny.
2/9/2008 2:13:10 PM EDT
[#25]

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I've seen pictures of the muzzle--no way that barrel is too skinny.


You would still need an adapter of this nature to support the end of the barrel anyway.  

Is that adapter aluminum or stainless?  How much for the adapter?
2/9/2008 3:15:49 PM EDT
[#26]
The barrel is right at 1/2 inch I think U need a little thicker barrel to thread it right.
2/9/2008 3:19:41 PM EDT
[#27]
Looks like a must have - is Gemtech providing the GSG-5 already converted or do I need to buy one, ship it, and get in line??

Can't wait to see the Gemtech Tundra tested too.
2/9/2008 3:46:29 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Looks like a must have - is Gemtech providing the GSG-5 already converted or do I need to buy one, ship it, and get in line??

Can't wait to see the Gemtech Tundra tested too.
U need to get the gun first. Gemtech has the adapter or barrel attached to the can to make one tax stamp. Im going the two tax stamps route. Check out he link on page one in the HK forums.
2/10/2008 2:15:55 PM EDT
[#29]


Looks to me like there would be enough meat on the barrel to thread it.

Anybody know how much Gemtech's adapter is?
2/11/2008 7:58:24 AM EDT
[#30]
The barrel is .470 inches.  The same as a P22.  There is not enough thickness to thread and have theads tall enough to properly engage.  Thats why the P22 has the adapter to step up in thickness.  Last word from Gemtech is they are still tweaking the design/suppressor.  So no word on price/availability yet.  But just because its a 8" can doesnt mean it will be that much quieter.  I spoke with several makers and they increased the length of current production models with no real improvement.  I think 44db is going to be the limit on 22 suppression for a while.  One of them said they had a noticeable difference in tone with the bigger suppressor but not any quieter on the meter.
2/11/2008 1:32:51 PM EDT
[#31]
Has anyone run one of the GSG-5's with subsonic ammo? Seems kind of silly to go to all the trouble threading the barrel or permanently fixing the can on if the weapon won't run on subs. My Ruger 10/22 and Ceiner kit for the AR both run with subs, so keeping the rounds quiet isn't an issue.
2/11/2008 4:02:15 PM EDT
[#32]
I took mine out the first day and ran about 450 rounds through it.  All had 1 full magazine of each and i mix matched others but.  CCI subsonic, stand vel, mini mag, fed automatch, Remington subsonic and target, Winchester Dynapoint all ran without a hick-up.  I only had 1 issue and that was a failure to pick up the initial round 1 time but recharging the weapon corrected that issue.  So far mine will eat anything i feed it.
2/12/2008 10:45:05 AM EDT
[#33]
Cool. thanks for the update.
2/13/2008 11:01:02 AM EDT
[#34]
Any update on this?
2/13/2008 1:55:11 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
Looks like a must have - is Gemtech providing the GSG-5 already converted or do I need to buy one, ship it, and get in line??

Can't wait to see the Gemtech Tundra tested too.


Yes, the GSG-5SD will be available on a Gemtech supplied GSG-5 Rifle. MSRP $1,195 for the complete package. Final design work, testing, and production of the first batch of rifle/suppressors is beginning. Target release date is May 2008.

Owen M.
Gemtech
2/13/2008 1:56:27 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
...snip...

Anybody know how much Gemtech's adapter is?



Adapters will be the same price as our P22 and Mosquito adapters at $45 MSRP. If you send your Form 1 SBR rifle to Gemtech we will cut and recrown your barrel and install the adapter for $150.

The first run of production version adapters will be completed in about a week.

Owen M.
Gemtech
2/13/2008 4:47:26 PM EDT
[#37]
owen,

what about the permanently attached suppressed 16" barrel, any word on those...

thanks.
2/13/2008 5:07:01 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
...snip...

Anybody know how much Gemtech's adapter is?



Adapters will be the same price as our P22 and Mosquito adapters at $45 MSRP. If you send your Form 1 SBR rifle to Gemtech we will cut and recrown your barrel and install the adapter for $150.

The first run of production version adapters will be completed in about a week.

Owen M.
Gemtech


Owen,
Do you happen to know the cut barrel length so we can put that correct info on our Form1?  I will NEED to submit my paperwork soon.
2/13/2008 5:31:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Owen... Do you need help testing!!

hehe  
2/13/2008 8:19:45 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
Do you happen to know the cut barrel length so we can put that correct info on our Form1?  I will NEED to submit my paperwork soon.



***Not Owen, but I gotta respect a man's need and right to a cool little suppressed SBR.  That and good carpaccio.  Your basic barrel info from the Gemtech GSG adapter packaging:




Kel


ARFCOM INDUSTRY DISCLAIMER:  Material things fade away and the immediate joy of ownership can sour quickly with the discovery that there's always newer and cooler upcoming.  These days, a lot of this 'newer-cooler' stuff can be found on the Gemtech website (www.gem-tech.com).  It's a never-ending quest (but not anywhere near as deflating as trying to keep up with the Joneses in the computer or electronics worlds, mind you), and thus you shouldn't get your self-worth out of what you own, but then again, there's nothing wrong with enjoying the ride once you've got your priorities and values in check.


Edit for typo. You'd think I'd know how to spell "suppressed"...
2/14/2008 2:26:18 AM EDT
[#41]
Question:  Is there an MP5 looking flash hider to screw on there when, for some reason, I don't use the suppressor?
2/14/2008 3:29:22 AM EDT
[#42]

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Question:  Is there an MP5 looking flash hider to screw on there when, for some reason, I don't use the suppressor?
Yes any 223 threaded device will work, there is a three lug U can use. Somewhere someone had links for them.
2/14/2008 3:41:13 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do you happen to know the cut barrel length so we can put that correct info on our Form1?  I will NEED to submit my paperwork soon.



***Not Owen, but I gotta respect a man's need and right to a cool little suppressed SBR.  That and good carpaccio.  Your basic barrel info from the Gemtech GSG adapter packaging:

i31.tinypic.com/293zx1e.jpg


Kel



Awesome.  I guess the ATF will be happy with 8" for barrel length.  Thanks Kel!!!

I am still wondering, do we need to send in the entire rifle or just the barrel.  I am guessing if we send in the entire rifle it can be tested at gemtech to make sure everything is A-OK.
2/14/2008 2:01:49 PM EDT
[#44]
Where do U have your name engraved on the GSG since the upper is the gun? Not much room for engraving on them.
2/14/2008 6:01:27 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
...snip...

Anybody know how much Gemtech's adapter is?



Adapters will be the same price as our P22 and Mosquito adapters at $45 MSRP. If you send your Form 1 SBR rifle to Gemtech we will cut and recrown your barrel and install the adapter for $150.

The first run of production version adapters will be completed in about a week.

Owen M.
Gemtech


Will you guys be selling an SBR'd GSG5 with the adaptor installed as a complete gun?  I will buy one no doubt.
2/14/2008 6:38:07 PM EDT
[#46]

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Will you guys be selling an SBR'd GSG5 with the adaptor installed as a complete gun?  I will buy one no doubt.


check the post above the one you quoted nevermind.


owen,

what about the permanently attached suppressed 16" barrel, any word on those...

thanks.


bueller, bueller
2/15/2008 2:36:18 AM EDT
[#47]
I would also like to know if gemtech is thinking about selling pre cut barrels with the adapter just by itself.  I would like to SBR mine, but I think I would also like to keep the 16" barrel as well, just incase.
I heard that someone will be making an aftermarket shorty, but I haven't heard anything yet on who that might be.
5/2/2008 11:37:15 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
I would also like to know if gemtech is thinking about selling pre cut barrels with the adapter just by itself.  I would like to SBR mine, but I think I would also like to keep the 16" barrel as well, just incase.
I heard that someone will be making an aftermarket shorty, but I haven't heard anything yet on who that might be.


I would like the same thing.
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