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2/2/2014 7:54:22 AM EDT
I screwed up and put green permatex on the bolt catch screw on my LR308 lower. The head is starting to strip out, and the soldering iron isn't doing anything to release the thread locker.



Do you think putting the entire lower in the oven at 300 degrees will help? Am I going to need to drop it off at a machine shop?

2/2/2014 8:19:46 AM EDT
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I screwed up and put green permatex on the bolt catch screw on my LR308 lower. The head is starting to strip out, and the soldering iron isn't doing anything to release the thread locker.

Do you think putting the entire lower in the oven at 300 degrees will help? Am I going to need to drop it off at a machine shop?
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Spec sheet here
2/2/2014 8:23:32 AM EDT
[#2]
Wow! 450 degrees.





I assume that is okay for a lower with Cerakote.
2/2/2014 10:57:18 AM EDT
[#3]
I know the high heat cerakote can take it, but if there is hard coat underneath I don't know what will happen. Hard coat can crack at not so high temps.
2/2/2014 11:08:48 AM EDT
[#4]
Probably, your next step is higher DIRECTED heat.

For this get a large old fashioned copper soldering iron or a steel bar.
The old copper soldering irons are large copper tips mounted on a steel shaft with a wood handle.
You can also use a larger one inch?? steel bar and grind the end to a flattened point about the same diameter as the screw head.
Whatever you use you want it to be massive enough to maintain heat for longer then a few seconds.

Heat the iron or the bar to a bright red heat with a torch and touch the tip to the screw head and allow the heat to transfer to the screw.
This should break down and soften the Loctite.  Before the screw cools, unscrew it with a properly fitting gunsmiths screwdriver.
2/2/2014 11:41:54 AM EDT
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I woke up stupid one morning and used that green Loctite on an AR-15 barrel extension.  Not the barrel nut thread, thank God.  But it was bad enough trying to remove that barrel.




2/2/2014 6:04:08 PM EDT
[#6]
Yeah, I was using the "wood burning" craft type iron....I just broke out the 1960's gun type that will melt silver solder.



If anything will do it, that will.



I will report results after mess with it tonight.
2/27/2014 11:57:01 PM EDT
[#7]
No dice



I even got the area hot enough with a heat gun to smell the loctite cooking, and still cannot get it to budge.



Now, of course, the head is stripped on the screw.



Now what?




3/6/2014 3:40:40 PM EDT
[#8]
try cooling the barrel down?
3/6/2014 3:51:09 PM EDT
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try cooling the barrel down?
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It isn't the barrel, and I don't think that would pose much of a problem with Green Permatex.



It is the little "Bolt Catch" screw on a DPMS LR38 lower.



 
3/6/2014 3:59:34 PM EDT
[#10]
Drill it out and tap it.
3/6/2014 4:04:48 PM EDT
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Drill it out and tap it.
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That would be an option, but, man, there isn't much, if any, room to drill or tap it.....I tried a little bit of both.
 
3/10/2014 5:14:40 AM EDT
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For future reference, Vibra-Tite VC-3 is the best option for fastener retention (except gas block fasteners).
3/20/2014 10:03:57 AM EDT
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I made the mistake of using green locktite on small screws before... I applied it like normal locktite.

That stuff is only low strength when used as directed, after parts are assembled. Otherwise, it's high strength.



At this point, you need to find someone skilled with drilling and tapping.

Drill it out just smaller than the inner thread diameter, then tap it out... You may end up needing a helicoil.


If the manufacturer can fix it, then you can try contacting them, if not, a gunsmith may be needed.
3/20/2014 10:50:37 AM EDT
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I made the mistake of using green locktite on small screws before... I applied it like normal locktite.



That stuff is only low strength when used as directed, after parts are assembled. Otherwise, it's high strength.
At this point, you need to find someone skilled with drilling and tapping.



Drill it out just smaller than the inner thread diameter, then tap it out... You may end up needing a helicoil.





If the manufacturer can fix it, then you can try contacting them, if not, a gunsmith may be needed.
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Thanks for the advice, brother.




I will contact someone now.
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