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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:32:47 AM EDT
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The mount interface is the same interface (what we call the universal taper mount interface). So the minimalist brakes retrofit the older silencers as well as the new.
The mount uses a taper for repeatable, accurate, solid, and worry free mounting. As with any suppressor mount, you simply torque the mount to the correct torque using timing washers to clock the muzzle device (35ft lbs 5.56mm, 45ft lbs 762mm), and then firmly tighten the suppressor to the mount. |
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I just ordered a Recce 5 Mod 3 last week. Cant wait to get it! Who did you use to order it? Anyone in state? Hahnson Brothers in Culpeper, Virginia has them in stock. $640 shipped to my local Class 3 dealer. |
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You can call your dealer and explain the situation - tell him you still want to give him your business, but not on that can. You'll have to float the $200 until the ATF refunds it, but that's really all you can do.
Personally, I would cancel the order in that position to get the newest can. Others will feel differently, but it's your money. You need to be happy with your purchase. |
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You can call your dealer and explain the situation - tell him you still want to give him your business, but not on that can. You'll have to float the $200 until the ATF refunds it, but that's really all you can do. Personally, I would cancel the order in that position to get the newest can. Others will feel differently, but it's your money. You need to be happy with your purchase. Already paid for the can and the stamp. Got the can from out of state dealer. I will just deal with it and be happy with what I got. Just picked up my AEM5 so I have that to keep me occupied. |
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Already paid for the can and the stamp. Got the can from out of state dealer. I will just deal with it and be happy with what I got. Just picked up my AEM5 so I have that to keep me occupied. Quoted:
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You can call your dealer and explain the situation - tell him you still want to give him your business, but not on that can. You'll have to float the $200 until the ATF refunds it, but that's really all you can do. Personally, I would cancel the order in that position to get the newest can. Others will feel differently, but it's your money. You need to be happy with your purchase. Already paid for the can and the stamp. Got the can from out of state dealer. I will just deal with it and be happy with what I got. Just picked up my AEM5 so I have that to keep me occupied. Same. I liked the can in it's previous form enough to buy. I will just be happy with it. |
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What exactly is the change for the Recce 5? Anything that changes performance? I The Mod 2 is a great can. The new revision just features some useful attributes that we are bringing to the line. The suppressors have a chassis- a bullet machined single piece of 17-4SS- this makes them incredibly strong- stronger than anything ever put on the market. This is like having a heat treated 718 inconel tube on the suppressor- because 17-4 is 3 times as strong as 316, and twice as strong as 718 in the cold reduced sheet. These are attributes unavailable in tube materials. There is no 17-4 seamless tube on the market, there is no seamless 718 inconel tube I'm aware of. Tube relies on the material to be soft, moderately weak, and form-able so it is a compromised concept from the beginning. The older unit was also made from billet 17-4SS but was welded into monolithic structure like the SIG suppressor's assembly of their cast baffles. The use of the "chassis" as we're calling it, reduces the integrity focused mechanical reliance on welds. Welds and castings cause undesirable loss of grain structure control. Welds are never realistically as strong as billet material which is 100% contiguously joined with controlled material grain structure aligned in the appropriate direction. Reducing that critical weld reliance especially in hot and high pressure areas is in my opinion theoretically superior. The flash suppressor integrated into the front cap is a signature reduction feature. Sound performance will be similar to the Mod 2. We've built cans a lot of different ways and I prefer this method. On the negative side it requires about 50% more bar stock to make a suppressor this way- more time, and more machining. A 9" RSTA requires about 15.5" of bar stock (not counting the included 4.2" muzzle device) with 85% material removal for manufacturing. We've done some really punishing things to pre-production units with no visible wear. That's important. A lot of companies brag on mechanically staying together while systems are eroded and cored out internally or damaged in ways deleting sound performance that no owner would be happy about. What really impressed us was the ability to do things that should typically cause irreparable wear or harm and pull through without expected visible damage. |
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Just put in the form 4 papers for my Recce 5 wonder if there is a way to get it upgraded. Kind of sucks... Quoted:
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Dang I didn't know they were updating. I just bought a Recce 5 a month ago. Still waiting on the F3 for it.... Just put in the form 4 papers for my Recce 5 wonder if there is a way to get it upgraded. Kind of sucks... i asked they said no |
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Dang I didn't know they were updating. I just bought a Recce 5 a month ago. Still waiting on the F3 for it.... Just put in the form 4 papers for my Recce 5 wonder if there is a way to get it upgraded. Kind of sucks... i asked they said no Based on the above comments from Green0, I don't see how you could "upgrade" it |
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Always something better coming out soon. Don't sweat it you will be happy with the previous version. I agree. Eventually something has to be owned. If it was a good decision when you bought it, it was a good purchasing decision period. Product development doesn't mean the previous version isn't good, or even more desirable to some people. A customer just sent a message indicating he was dissatisfied our RSTA flash suppressor was upgraded to a more efficient and technologically competitive model similar to our taper mount flash suppressor. We don't have any of the old unit left here and the web photo should have been updated (and still hasn't been) but it proves the point. |
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Thanks for the detailed information. I do have a mod 2 in jail. Glad to see you guys are not sitting still. This is not my first Griffen purchase and probably won't be my last.
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The Mod 2 is a great can. The new revision just features some useful attributes that we are bringing to the line. The suppressors have a chassis- a bullet machined single piece of 17-4SS- this makes them incredibly strong- stronger than anything ever put on the market. This is like having a heat treated 718 inconel tube on the suppressor- because 17-4 is 3 times as strong as 316, and twice as strong as 718 in the cold reduced sheet. These are attributes unavailable in tube materials. There is no 17-4 seamless tube on the market, there is no seamless 718 inconel tube I'm aware of. Tube relies on the material to be soft, moderately weak, and form-able so it is a compromised concept from the beginning. The older unit was also made from billet 17-4SS but was welded into monolithic structure like the SIG suppressor's assembly of their cast baffles. The use of the "chassis" as we're calling it, reduces the integrity focused mechanical reliance on welds. Welds and castings cause undesirable loss of grain structure control. Welds are never realistically as strong as billet material which is 100% contiguously joined with controlled material grain structure aligned in the appropriate direction. Reducing that critical weld reliance especially in hot and high pressure areas is in my opinion theoretically superior. The flash suppressor integrated into the front cap is a signature reduction feature. Sound performance will be similar to the Mod 2. We've built cans a lot of different ways and I prefer this method. On the negative side it requires about 50% more bar stock to make a suppressor this way- more time, and more machining. A 9" RSTA requires about 15.5" of bar stock (not counting the included 4.2" muzzle device) with 85% material removal for manufacturing. We've done some really punishing things to pre-production units with no visible wear. That's important. A lot of companies brag on mechanically staying together while systems are eroded and cored out internally or damaged in ways deleting sound performance that no owner would be happy about. What really impressed us was the ability to do things that should typically cause irreparable wear or harm and pull through without expected visible damage. Quoted:
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What exactly is the change for the Recce 5? Anything that changes performance? I The Mod 2 is a great can. The new revision just features some useful attributes that we are bringing to the line. The suppressors have a chassis- a bullet machined single piece of 17-4SS- this makes them incredibly strong- stronger than anything ever put on the market. This is like having a heat treated 718 inconel tube on the suppressor- because 17-4 is 3 times as strong as 316, and twice as strong as 718 in the cold reduced sheet. These are attributes unavailable in tube materials. There is no 17-4 seamless tube on the market, there is no seamless 718 inconel tube I'm aware of. Tube relies on the material to be soft, moderately weak, and form-able so it is a compromised concept from the beginning. The older unit was also made from billet 17-4SS but was welded into monolithic structure like the SIG suppressor's assembly of their cast baffles. The use of the "chassis" as we're calling it, reduces the integrity focused mechanical reliance on welds. Welds and castings cause undesirable loss of grain structure control. Welds are never realistically as strong as billet material which is 100% contiguously joined with controlled material grain structure aligned in the appropriate direction. Reducing that critical weld reliance especially in hot and high pressure areas is in my opinion theoretically superior. The flash suppressor integrated into the front cap is a signature reduction feature. Sound performance will be similar to the Mod 2. We've built cans a lot of different ways and I prefer this method. On the negative side it requires about 50% more bar stock to make a suppressor this way- more time, and more machining. A 9" RSTA requires about 15.5" of bar stock (not counting the included 4.2" muzzle device) with 85% material removal for manufacturing. We've done some really punishing things to pre-production units with no visible wear. That's important. A lot of companies brag on mechanically staying together while systems are eroded and cored out internally or damaged in ways deleting sound performance that no owner would be happy about. What really impressed us was the ability to do things that should typically cause irreparable wear or harm and pull through without expected visible damage. |
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