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3/30/2011 7:13:15 AM EDT
So my interviewer said that all guns I sell must have a gun lock on them when they leave the store.  Is that a new thing?  I've purchased 5 guns from 3 different places in the past year and none of them came with a lock.


Shane
3/30/2011 7:16:35 AM EDT
[#1]
That's how it is in CT.
3/30/2011 7:17:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Are you close to a school?  If I remember right that is one of the requirements if your shop is in a "gun free" zone
3/30/2011 7:34:29 AM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


So my interviewer said that all guns I sell must have a gun lock on them when they leave the store.  Is that a new thing?  I've purchased 5 guns from 3 different places in the past year and none of them came with a lock.





Shane


http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2006/04/042106-openletter-ffl-child-safety-locks.html



 
3/30/2011 7:35:02 AM EDT
[#4]



Quoted:


Are you close to a school?  If I remember right that is one of the requirements if your shop is in a "gun free" zone


Negative.



 
3/30/2011 9:37:23 AM EDT
[#5]
Well...guess that answers that.  I'll abide by all rules, but what about these guys I bought the other guns from that didnt?  What kind of penalty would they face?


Shane
3/30/2011 9:43:25 AM EDT
[#6]
I've bought a bunch of guns from my local Cabela's. I've never had them put on a lock. But my local gun shop always puts one on.
3/30/2011 11:18:13 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Well...guess that answers that.  I'll abide by all rules, but what about these guys I bought the other guns from that didnt?  What kind of penalty would they face?

§ 922(z) is the handgun lock law.  Penalties for all of § 922 are detailed in § 924.

(p) Penalties Relating To Secure Gun Storage or Safety Device. -
(1) In general. -
(A) Suspension or revocation of license; civil penalties. -
With respect to each violation of section 922(z)(1) by a
licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, or licensed dealer,
the Secretary may, after notice and opportunity for hearing -
(i) suspend for not more than 6 months, or revoke, the
license issued to the licensee under this chapter that was
used to conduct the firearms transfer
; or
(ii) subject the licensee to a civil penalty in an amount
equal to not more than $2,500
.
(B) Review. - An action of the Secretary under this paragraph
may be reviewed only as provided under section 923(f).
(2) Administrative remedies. - The suspension or revocation of
a license or the imposition of a civil penalty under paragraph
(1) shall not preclude any administrative remedy that is
otherwise available to the Secretary.
3/30/2011 11:40:06 AM EDT
[#8]
Most modern weapons come with a gunlock in the box or container.
4/2/2011 12:43:35 PM EDT
[#9]
NYS requires that I provide a locking device with each firearm. Yes, new guns come with them already, but the rule applies to used guns as well.

I also have to provide the following anti gun verbiage with every gun:

“The use of a locking device or safety lock is only one aspect of responsible firearm storage.  For increased safety firearms should be stored unloaded and locked in a location that is both separate from their ammunition and inaccessible to children and any other unauthorized person”

The actual NYS law goes into detail to define what kind of lock is acceptible, because they saw dealers in other states throwing cheap plastic locks in and calling it good.



New York State has decided to define an acceptable “gun locking device” in the following manner:

An integrated design or feature or an attachable accessory that is resistant to tampering and is effective in preventing the discharge of a rifle, shotgun or firearm by a person who does not have access to the key, combination or other mechanism used to disengage the device.

Standards Pertaining to the Characteristics, Design, Operation and Construction of Gun Locking Devices:
The Gun Locking device must:
Only open by either a numeric combination, key, magnetic key or electronic key. Those devices that operate by means of a combination must require the entry of at least three variables of numbers, letters or other appropriate symbols entered in a specific sequence on a keypad, dial or tumbler device.
It must be constructed with such quality of workmanship and material that it may not be easily pried open, removed or otherwise defeated by use of common household tools.
It must be accompanied by written instructions on its proper installation and removal.
The Gun Locking Device must not:
Be locked by means of a screw or screws.
Have any exposed screws that, if removed, would render the gun locking device ineffective.
Be disengaged by a handcuff key or common household tool .
Be subject, at the time of sale, to voluntary or involuntary recall by the manufacturer.

New York State defines a Magnetic Key or Electronic key as a magnetic or electronic device which is encoded with a unique magnetic signature or which emits a unique electronic signal that disengages a gun safety device or other safety feature of a weapon.
4/2/2011 5:27:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
That's how it is in CT.


That's how some dealers practice it. However, they are only required to SUPPLY you with a locak on pistol sales/transfers (that includes private sales). Long guns don't require a trigger lock, legally, though IIRC they are supposed to give you an opaque wrapper, which many don't (on used long guns).
4/9/2011 7:01:12 PM EDT
[#11]
So I have read some dealers to, comply with the law and save the cash use tie straps. Is this good enough?
4/10/2011 10:27:23 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
So I have read some dealers to, comply with the law and save the cash use tie straps. Is this good enough?


How does a tie strap qualify as a lock?
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